2014 Pilot Discussion

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Speaking of PHX as a "minor concern," here is an interesting link:
 
http://www.usairways.com/en-US/Resources/_downloads/aboutus/pressroom/factsheets/factsheet.pdf
 
Note the Hub Operations box, and see that even DCA (which I thought was a "Focus City," but I guess has had its status upgraded) beats PHX in terms of number of flights, and they do it with less than 1/3 of the employees (admittedly, the PHX number probably includes hangar and HQ personnel)  and only 2/3 of the gates.  
 
PHX is already an "also ran," even without taking into consideration the AA operations and hubs.  If the New AA can acquire more gates in LAX, it's buh-bye PHX.  (PHX employees take special note: PIT and BWI are no longer on the list...a sign of things to come.)

The Winners And Losers Of The US Airways, American Merger
Source: Forbes


Winner: The New American
Its obvious, but the biggest winner here is clearly the merged airline, which got out of the DOJ action relatively unscathed. Yes, the loss of the 44 slot pairs at Washington Reagan is painful to a degree, especially given that Reagan was consistently the most profitable operation for pre-merger US Airways. But to put everything into perspective, the divested slots at Reagan and La Guardia represent less than 0.25% of the merged carriers capacity a drop in the bucket in aggregate. And the gate divestitures and service commitments required by the settlement are all things that the merged carrier would have done anyway with the possible exception of Phoenix (Ill address that below).

Loser: The Department of Justice
Lets be frank; the DOJ settled because it had a weak case. The case was based on spurious reasoning and analysis, as I outlined in my breakdown of the lawsuit and there was a significant chance that DOJ might lose in court, which would be even more catastrophic from their perspective than allowing this merger to continue. Quite simply put, if the DOJ had lost this lawsuit, it would have been effectively powerless to stop future airline industry mergers. By settling here, they at least have a leg to fall back on in prosecuting future mergers, though it will need a much better case.


Winner: Phoenix Sky Harbor
The commitment to maintain all of the pre-merger hubs is mostly a formality, except in the case (potentially) of Phoenix. Some analysts have suggested that Phoenix, which is a low yielding hub with a major competitive presence from Southwest, could get squeezed out in the combined carriers network by Dallas Fort Worth to the east and Los Angeles to the west. At the very least, it was certain that the current operation would have been downsized. (My projection was for about a 33% capacity reduction and a decrease in daily departures to 250 from 300, achieved by flipping the current mainline to regional ratio of 2:1) But now? Well see whether the commitment to maintain the Phoenix hub consistent with historical operations can be enforced by the DOJ. But if it can, it guarantees that Phoenix will stay as a hub for at least three more years. And the interesting undercurrent here is that Southwests costs are rising, which means that the competitive environment in Phoenix could be a whole lot rosier three years from now.

Loser: International Operations at Charlotte Douglas
Because the merger has gone through, much of the international operations at the Charlotte Douglas hub are rendered obsolete. The recent trans-Atlantic expansion was primarily to Star Alliance hubs, which will likely die out when US Airways moves over to one world. Most of the Caribbean flights and the flight to Rio are much better served from the much larger market of Miami. To be clear, Charlotte will not lose its hub. But its post-merger international operation will be much smaller than it is currently.

Loser: nycbusdriver

Is it going to be a working LOA93, non-SnapBack retirement in 800 days? AWE..

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[Black Swan]

Freund warned them at Wye River - how did he know the risks?
Oh well, all Water under the Chesapeake Bridge, maybe the Eric and Marty puppet show will face some independent thought this time.

I think they went with Polsinelli Schugart and Harper because of the hometown advantage. They knew Wake, they knew Silver.
They had bad advice from Judge Baldock, Eric Ferguson, Mark Doyal and Koontz.
They ran it as far as they could, right through Wake. Wake made unbelievably bad calls in court, stacking the deck against USAPA. It caught the attention of William Wilder in his RLA blog. Wilder called it right then. Then they tried Silver. To no avail.
The deciding factor was ignoring the 9 th. They still ignore the 9th. The skewed interpretations we all read here showed that the Leonidas principals still did not get it. So on they went, and still go. The Nicolau Award was shown to be DOA years ago with the 9th.
Metroyet , and especially Munn are out in left field still waving the Nicolau as any option whatsoever. Read the 9 th again Laurence. The fact you bring it up confirms it is a zero factor.
Leonidas will spend itself into a non factor. The West pilots should honestly make an attempt at LOS or even DOH at this point. There is that much attrition out there. They will move right up the list if they do that.
They probably will not, and unfortunately for them, will spend more money for nothing, and hurt themselves financially by not breaking down the walls of PHX.

 

[nycbusdriver]

The Winners And Losers Of The US Airways, American Merger
Source: Forbes


Winner: The New American
Its obvious, but the biggest winner here is clearly the merged airline, which got out of the DOJ action relatively unscathed. Yes, the loss of the 44 slot pairs at Washington Reagan is painful to a degree, especially given that Reagan was consistently the most profitable operation for pre-merger US Airways. But to put everything into perspective, the divested slots at Reagan and La Guardia represent less than 0.25% of the merged carriers capacity a drop in the bucket in aggregate. And the gate divestitures and service commitments required by the settlement are all things that the merged carrier would have done anyway with the possible exception of Phoenix (Ill address that below).

Loser: The Department of Justice
Lets be frank; the DOJ settled because it had a weak case. The case was based on spurious reasoning and analysis, as I outlined in my breakdown of the lawsuit and there was a significant chance that DOJ might lose in court, which would be even more catastrophic from their perspective than allowing this merger to continue. Quite simply put, if the DOJ had lost this lawsuit, it would have been effectively powerless to stop future airline industry mergers. By settling here, they at least have a leg to fall back on in prosecuting future mergers, though it will need a much better case.


Winner: Phoenix Sky Harbor
The commitment to maintain all of the pre-merger hubs is mostly a formality, except in the case (potentially) of Phoenix. Some analysts have suggested that Phoenix, which is a low yielding hub with a major competitive presence from Southwest, could get squeezed out in the combined carriers network by Dallas Fort Worth to the east and Los Angeles to the west. At the very least, it was certain that the current operation would have been downsized. (My projection was for about a 33% capacity reduction and a decrease in daily departures to 250 from 300, achieved by flipping the current mainline to regional ratio of 2:1) But now? Well see whether the commitment to maintain the Phoenix hub consistent with historical operations can be enforced by the DOJ. But if it can, it guarantees that Phoenix will stay as a hub for at least three more years. And the interesting undercurrent here is that Southwests costs are rising, which means that the competitive environment in Phoenix could be a whole lot rosier three years from now.

Loser: International Operations at Charlotte Douglas
Because the merger has gone through, much of the international operations at the Charlotte Douglas hub are rendered obsolete. The recent trans-Atlantic expansion was primarily to Star Alliance hubs, which will likely die out when US Airways moves over to one world. Most of the Caribbean flights and the flight to Rio are much better served from the much larger market of Miami. To be clear, Charlotte will not lose its hub. But its post-merger international operation will be much smaller than it is currently.

Loser: nycbusdriver

Is it going to be a working LOA93, non-SnapBack retirement in 800 days? AWE..

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Hey, Sandbox Mole!
 
Did you even read your post about PHX being a "winner"?  It sounds pretty bleak to me, and you didn't even have the cojones to post the author.  Do you really expect that the DOJ will hold Parker accountable beyond the timeframe he promised PHX?  
 
And me?  Loser?  I've been a captain here since 1984.  Since coming off of LOA 93 pay rates, I will earn near nearly $1 Million before I retire.  When I retire, I have my comfortable 401K.  PBGC will be "fun money."  How will you spend YOUR PBGC?  Oh, that's right.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
And who's the loser, Desert Mole?
 
And, one final thought:  I have the comfort of knowing that you west idiots will keep the courts busy and yourselves from any progress.  My replacements in the A330 will be East pilots long after you retire.  You west idiots don't only shoot yourselves in the foot, you morons "Gatling Gun" yourselves at the knees!
 
 

 

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Hey, Sandbox Mole!
 
Did you even read your post about PHX being a "winner"?  It sounds pretty bleak to me, and you didn't even have the cojones to post the author.  Do you really expect that the DOJ will hold Parker accountable beyond the timeframe he promised PHX?  
 
And me?  Loser?  I've been a captain here since 1984.  Since coming off of LOA 93 pay rates, I will earn near nearly $1 Million before I retire.  When I retire, I have my comfortable 401K.  PBGC will be "fun money."  How will you spend YOUR PBGC?  Oh, that's right.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
And who's the loser, Desert Mole?
 
And, one final thought:  I have the comfort of knowing that you west idiots will keep the courts busy and yourselves from any progress.  My replacements in the A330 will be East pilots long after you retire.  You west idiots don't only shoot yourselves in the foot, you morons "Gatling Gun" yourselves at the knees!
 
 

OK, with all due disrespect, it's Capt Loser. You don't get any respect from me for being a cheat.

Have you ever heard of Google? Search for it yourself. It's called a search engine and I was able to find a message when Fodase put you in your place:

Posted by fodase on 03 March 2011 - 01:48 PM in US Airways
'nycbusdriver', on 03 Mar 2011 - 09:06 AM, said:
I have a few buddies down at the dock I would like you to meet some dark night. Tell them that their International Longshoremen's Association is merely an association and not a union, why dontcha?

And when they're done with their "discussion," we can have another group who merely have a "brotherhood," and not a union, cart what's left of you off in one of their semi- rigs."

Posted by fodase on 03 March 2011 - 01:48 PM
You are a LIAR. No longshoremen would hangout or be friends with any union busting scab easties, what a freakin clown.

I miss Fodase

 

[nycbusdriver]

OK, with all due disrespect, it's Capt Loser. You don't get any respect from me for being a cheat.

Have you ever heard of Google? Search for it yourself. It's called a search engine and I was able to find a message when Fodase put you in your place:

Posted by fodase on 03 March 2011 - 01:48 PM in US Airways
'nycbusdriver', on 03 Mar 2011 - 09:06 AM, said:
I have a few buddies down at the dock I would like you to meet some dark night. Tell them that their International Longshoremen's Association is merely an association and not a union, why dontcha?

And when they're done with their "discussion," we can have another group who merely have a "brotherhood," and not a union, cart what's left of you off in one of their semi- rigs."

Posted by fodase on 03 March 2011 - 01:48 PM
You are a LIAR. No longshoremen would hangout or be friends with any union busting scab easties, what a freakin clown.

I miss Fodase

 
Uh....excuse me....but the certified scabs are on the west list, Sandbox Mole.
 
Do you use the money from the $700 ties to pay for the Gatling Gun ammo?

 

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NYC loser..
 
I thought you'd be hanging out with your Greenwich Village People watching a soccer game. Watchya doin here?
 
 

 

[nycbusdriver]

NYC loser..
 
I thought you'd be hanging out with your Greenwich Village People watching a soccer game. Watchya doin here?
 
 

 
Hey, you're the one with that picture in your collection.  You seem very obsessed with the Village People, since you keep posting about them.  Do you "like" that picture?  Does your wife know?
 
Your turn to "come out"? 
 
Is that Anger in the leather?  I know he's into motorcycles.

 

[Freighterguynow]

A. I think he will present east pilot actions quite well regarding the Nic and the current east seniority list (and seats held) before the arbitrator...don't you?

Was the MOU in effect in 2005 ?

18. a. This Memorandum shall become effective (the “Memorandum Approval Date”) upon the date when all of the following have occurred: (i) approval by APA’s Board of Directors; (ii) approval by US Airways' Board of Directors; and (iii) approval by AMR Corporation's Board of Directors.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Hey, you're the one with that picture in your collection.  You seem very obsessed with the Village People, since you keep posting about them.  Do you "like" that picture?  Does your wife know?
 
Your turn to "come out"?

I guess as an admitted Libtard, you probably like Hillary.

 

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I guess as an admitted Libtard, you probably like Hillary.

Good one.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I guess as an admitted Libtard, you probably like Hillary.

 
Voted for her in the primaries in 2008.  Will vote for her for president in 2016.  Card carrying Democrat.
 
Get over it, Sandbox Mole.  Read the demongraphic trends: Your kind are "going down.  Nothing you can do to stop it."
 
:LOL:

 

[Freighterguynow]

Hillary and Janet Reno for VP !

 

[luvthe9]

NYC loser..
 
I thought you'd be hanging out with your Greenwich Village People watching a soccer game. Watchya doin here?

Nice group shot! Anger, Munn, Traitor, Fergie, Doyal( cop) Snap, and Marty.

 

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Hillary and Janet Reno for VP !

That is a really baad picture.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Nice group shot! Anger, Munn, Traitor, Fergie, Doyal( cop) Snap, and Marty.

 
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