2014 Pilot Discussion

[nic4us]

There were 1174 eligible voters, of which 641 cast a ballot, representing 54.6% of the eligible voters........ Most guys no it's over and don't care to vote.

"Most guys" could not care less about your scab union.

Kinda like the company and the APA.

Also, I am a little upset the "goat man" did not win, but Scherf can tend to business just fine. He might even get a little advice from the losing candidate on how to best seek DOL involvement to ensure the dues collected are returned to the membership.

And, your typo error is spot on, unlike your understanding of AOL finances and the balance owed Polsinelli.

Here is a clue for you SCAB. The fake union had to raise dues to cover the fact that they have to siphon money out and pay legal fees at a rate 4 times what AOL is paying or is customary and standard. Now, I understand the uscaba treasurer seeks ,,,get this,,,,he want to bill West pilots out in advance of 6 weeks prior to actuallybearning the income!

Have any of you east SCABs ever wondered why the bill for Addington I was 1.6 million to Polsinelli Shugart, but 10 million to Seeham? Then, you even tried to sue Seeham for his billing practices?

 

[traderjake]

[SIZE=14pt]American Airlines FAQ's: February 6, 2014[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Q: W hat is our current debt?[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]A: At the end of 2013, the company’s long term debt was about $16.8 billion. There will be more details included in the balance sheet of our 10-K report, which we will file in the coming weeks.[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Q: When will the decisions be announced regarding interior fleet commonality? Specifically, will Main Cabin Extra be installed on US Airways aircraft; will the Airbus A319s be standard at eight or 12 First Class seats; will US Airways aircraft be getting the new American interiors with seat back entertainment and power outlets, etc...[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]A: We are currently evaluating and analyzing our two fleets and we’ll share more details when we can on how we’ll harmonize our fleets. We do have plans to install Main Cabin Extra on the legacy US Airways’ fleet and will share more details on that soon.[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Q: I just read we will be adding seats to three American aircraft MD-80, Boeing 737-800 and Boeing 777-200. Will there be a fourth flight attendant added to the B737 because of this? Will the company consider going with a 3-3-3 configuration in coach on the 777 instead of the current 2-5-3? It's the configuration most 777-200 operators have, including Delta and United.[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]A: As we look to harmonize the fleets, we are still evaluating configuration details for our legacy American and legacy US Airways fleets. We anticipate increasing seat count on the 737-800 fleet, and will remain compliant with the FAA requirement of staffing. We’ll also soon share more details on the configuration of our refreshed Boeing 777-200 aircraft, which will begin being retrofitted this year.[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Q: How much longer until the Boeing 767s are phased out?[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]A: Legacy American’s Boeing 767-200 fleet will retire in May 2014. Legacy American’s 767-200 fleet is being replaced with new Airbus A321 Transcontinental aircraft.[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Q: What domestic, on-board entertainment decisions have been made? Live TV, On Demand, etc. at every seat back?[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]A: President Scott Kirby explained, “At the moment, we don’t have any plans to change the aircraft order with respect to in-seat video. I doubt we’ll put seat-back video on or retrofit aircraft for that. What we might do at some point is some kind of deal where you have more television options available to an aircraft, but you’d have to have your own device. I don’t know if we’ll do that or not, but looking at options like these is much more practical than retrofitting those aircraft.”[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Q: Is it true that we will no longer offer service between CLT and Rio de Janeiro (GIG)?[/SIZE]
 
 
[SIZE=12pt]A: Beginning early next year, US Airways will no longer operate service between CLT and GIG. This change is part of constant evaluation of our overall combined network to ensure we maximize our fleet and profitability, and match customer demand. American will continue to offer our customers access to GIG from DFW, JFK and MIA, and US Airways’ daily nonstop service between CLT and São Paulo (GRU) remains unchanged.[/SIZE]

 

[EastUS1]

"Most guys" could not care less about your scab union.

Also, I am a little upset the "goat man" did not win, but Scherf can tend to business just fine. He might even get a little advice from the losing candidate on how to best seek DOL involvement to ensure the dues collected are returned to the membership.

Have any of you east SCABs ever wondered why the bill for Addington I was 1.6 million to Polsinelli Shugart, but 10 million to Seeham? T

1) Apparently "Most guys" couldn't care less about even voting for "you'se" own Reps either, which honestly surprised me. It seems your "army" has a morale problem of late.
2) That's nowadays "you'se" very best shot? Really? So... "Billions in damages" is no longer even fantasized?
3) Ever hear the old saying "you get what you pay for"? 1.6 million completely wasted hardly seems cause for celebration to me. 😉

 

[dca319]

 
At some future point you may wish to cease manufacturing distress for yourself. There are other options, and the choice is entirely your own. Some suggested reading:
 
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/articles/pathological-lying-symptom-or-disease
 
http://addiction.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Pathological_Lying_Symptoms
 
https://www.achievesolutions.net/achievesolutions/en/Content.do?contentId=9704
 
http://voices.yahoo.com/pathological-lying-symptoms-other-mental-disorders-6901368.html
 
Bottom Line = "Again, with medications and therapy these patients can get the help they need to succeed in every facet of life." Just some food for thought. It's your life and your choice.

I'm still amazed at how quickly you recover from your nightly benders.

 

[dca319]

A320 Driver, on 06 Feb 2014 - 3:50 PM, said:And why is that so desperately important to you if you are an East pilot? I've heard many different theories and opinions about what will be and what won't be after the SLI, and you know what??? Only ONE of them is right. What gives you the inside track on the outcome?
 
Whew! This is truly textbook material.  "Because I make the effort to ask other outside of USAPA." Fair enough. Exactly who are the "other"?  "I suggest you find them and ask them the tough questions." Again: WHO? Where and how did "you'se" "find them"? "There are pilots here who have seen this up close and have very good ideas as to where this is going."...? OK. WHO are they, and where is "here", and how have the supposed individuals managed to "have seen this up close", much less "have very good ideas as to where this is going"? The twisted fantasies within your own head, and/or even the voices heard when the neighbor's dog's "talking" to you don't qualify. If seriously suggesting supposed education for us that you've magically obtained...well, don't "you'se" feel it'd help your case, and certainly serve to benefit all of the presumably more ignorant, to simply point all directly to your supposed sources? 😉

You know who those individuals are.  You need to put your booze away and make the effort to delve deeper instead of towing the USAPA line.  It'll help you to be sober for a day to fully digest the information.

 

[EastUS1]

You know who those individuals are.

 
Why would I ask if that were so, and why does it clearly prove impossible for "you'se" to name any?
 
It's quite a simple concept really, but I'll repeat it for "you'se":  If seriously suggesting supposed education for us that you've magically obtained...well, don't "you'se" feel it'd help your case, and certainly serve to benefit all of the presumably more ignorant, to simply point all directly to your supposed sources?

 

[snapthis]

What a poor turnout. Speaks volumes. The west has given up.
Cactusboy53 gets in again. More of the same delusion with Ferguson

It's DJ MC spinning the results, once again it's a drunken dance party. AOL is out of money, West pilots have given up. Here's the reality, Eric Ferguson, you know him as one of the Leonidas founders is elected. Both John and Eric having survived false ID theft charges by MC get to participate in the dismantling of USAPA. Bottom line, U-saps have a lame-duck union so those who did not vote have already moved on and could care less. Except for Dave S, who will have more time proceed with his campaign objectives.

A few comments on the election:

Congratulations to the winners and thanks to all that voted. We ALL know that Uzapas days are counted...

Westies mostly don't give a rip about it, or them.

Well if the election was to get rid of USAPA I'm sure it would of been nearly 100%. This is beyond lame duck. Hopefully only 60-75 days to go.

NOBODY really gives a ####, and nobody sees the outcome of this election being determinative in our careers. Such was the case for the Hummel / Bradford recall. The ONLY apathy I would be concerned about would be dwindling support for our seniority fight. So far, I see none. USAPA has been out actively fishing for a sucker to replace Ken and Rocky on the MC and we have ZERO takers. AOL is still receiving plenty of donations.

 

[EastUS1]

I'm still amazed at how quickly you recover from your nightly benders.

 
Previously covered: "Move2CLT/DCA319's not sufficiently intelligent to even front two "identities" without excessive overlap. Any protracted confrontation inevitably reduces him to "Yo Momma!" types of pithy one-liners in attempted "defense" in either persona."

 

[EastUS1]

AOL is still receiving plenty of donations.

 
Care to post just what amount constitutes "plenty"?....Didn't think so. 😉

 

[EastUS1]

 USAPA has been out actively fishing for a sucker to replace Ken and Rocky on the MC and we have ZERO takers.

 
So "Ken and Rocky" were definably suckers? "You'se" guys just make this far too easy. 😉

 

[Bill Brasky]

...Here is a clue for you SCAB. The fake union had to raise dues to cover the fact that they have to siphon money out and pay legal fees at a rate 4 times what AOL is paying or is customary and standard. Now, I understand the uscaba treasurer seeks ,,,get this,,,,he want to bill West pilots out in advance of 6 weeks prior to actuallybearning the income!

Have any of you east SCABs ever wondered why the bill for Addington I was 1.6 million to Polsinelli Shugart, but 10 million to Seeham? Then, you even tried to sue Seeham for his billing practices?

I guess good legal advice must cost more than bad legal advice.  Difference is, WE WON!  And, you paid for both sides!  
 
NO scabs on the East.  The west, however, is a far different story!
 
Now, go write that check....Marty's got bills to pay.  The Benz isn't gonna fill itself...

 

[Phoenix]

Care to post just what amount constitutes "plenty"?....Didn't think so. 😉

Their regular "contributors tab" is a bit dated and was updated with a few stragglers about a year ago... For the lastest and greatest groundswell of support and donation enthusiasm....

Just reference their NEW AND IMPROVED "contributur's list" on the "Push for Justice" tab at CactusPilot.com!

 

[Phoenix]

Already did.  I actually gave you two.

More imaginary spitballs at a gun fight. Donate at cactuspilot.org to get a fresh supply from Ferggie, Koontz, and Marty!

 

[snapthis]

Care to post just what amount constitutes "plenty"?....Didn't think so. 😉

Enough to outlast USAPA. 😉

I've looking back at the beginnings of USAPA. All those unkept promises, so much hope, hope which became a headache.

Remember getting hit over the head by Cluex4? I'll bet it still hurts to this day. 😉

"ClueByFour Posted 06 March 2008 - 01:37 PM
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EastUS, on Mar 6 2008, 01:18 PM, said:
Some people have respect for years worked and experience gained. Some clearly don't. End of story.

Cluex4 replies....
Herein lies the rub: 8 years experience at HP brought a job. 8 years experience at US did not. End of story.

USAPA is trying to rewrite that truth at the expense of the HP pilots after an arbitrator ruled as such. It's morally bankrupt to suggest that someone (regardless of experience) who did not bring a job to a merger should be placed before someone who did. It's morally bankrupt to suggest that a 16 year FO should be placed ahead of a 9 year Captain.

(it's equally morally bankrupt to suggest that the HP guys should capture the East attrition--but arbitration is a gamble. East knew it, east lost, and now East is trying to cram down a mulligan)."

Bottom line East, you've been whacked over the head so much over the years and you still don't have a clue.

Maybe that's the reason for the drinking. Dulls the pain until the hangover arrives 😉

 

[EastUS1]

EastUS1, on 07 Feb 2014 - 10:10 AM, said:
Care to post just what amount constitutes "plenty"?....Didn't think so.

Enough to outlast USAPA. 😉
 

 
Didn't think so proved true, which is far more than can be said of "you'se" standard BS. 😉
 
BTW: Perhaps while extolling the supposed wisdom of clue, "you'se" overlooked the contained: "it's equally morally bankrupt to suggest that the HP guys should capture the East attrition..."?