2014 Pilot Discussion

[snapthis]

Snapper with his 5 screen names strikes!

Wrong again, BS.

 

[Black Swan]

I wish you would keep your Mom's picture as your avatar instead of all your boys.
 
She could use singing lessons.

You would like the mom or a West dude with your woman. Which you wuss.

 

[Black Swan]

Wrong again, BS.[/quote

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Sure. F/O obvious
Does Trader let you post for him too? Soon if not.

 

[Black Swan]

Trader lets the West guys use him and the wife. Pretty sad.

 

[traderjake]

 The inevitable death of USAPA and DOH is starting to take it's toll on some people. 

 

[Black Swan]

I saw Russ is an AA pilot. Wow. Years ago there's was a snowballs chance in hell of that happening. Just like the rest of the rest of them. Notice how they grab right on that. Pathetic

 

[Black Swan]

The inevitable death of USAPA and DOH is starting to take it's toll on some people. 

Yes, just like the inevitable of any legitimate pilot who actually earned his job recognizing you earned your position.

 

[Black Swan]

Trader. What position do the West pilots prefer?

 

[Black Swan]

Trader

Wrong again, BS.

Nice Tony

 

[snapthis]

You West guys thinking an AA pilot would sanction the Nic. You guys are on crack!

Crack?

What a tirade...sleep it off.
 
Based on what I'm reading on other forums, they are not buying the BS.............BS

Originally Posted by wiggy
Not a Westie...why would I not admit that if I were...do you have a hard time believing an impartial 3rd party could latch on to the ethical theme of "a pilot group not honoring their agreement"?...it is simply what it is...indicative of what most pilots in the industry think of your group...I give such characterizations of your group...you call it preaching...How can the unsavory implications of what your pilot group has done be termed "lies"? How can speculating on possibilities be termed lies? Do point out where I've lied in the above post...

Originally Posted by jayme
I'm not as sophisticated as you clever book-readers, but if I was a former AWA pilot I'd be sure to ask why my union (the APA in this case) didn't use the arbitrated seniority list when integrating Airways with American.

If I didn't like the answer I'd sue the hell out of them.

Oh, and I hope the East eats a sh-t sandwich! A man's word should mean something.

Originally Posted by wiggy
Ah, that bothersome, basic ethical theme that keeps popping up consistently from time to time...yet the Easties think if enough time passes by, and delaying technical legalities accumulate, somehow the role of human ethical nature will be forgotten in all of this, or finessed so it's distasteful implications will somehow be projected equally onto the West...R-57, I think jayme is talking about a sh!t sandwich over and above the pre-agreed to results of the Nic...I think he's actually wishing the East a little bit of ill-will...I can't imagine why such an "ignorant" disinterested 3rd party would want that...lol.

If the SLI does not keep the Nic ordering when merged with the APA list...(something that it appears judge Silver doesn't seem to contemplate when anticipating a seniority regime with which to compare the Nic...but it ain't rocket science...either the Nic ordering will be retained or it won't...with a 99.99% Usapian surety that if it is not, that the west will be harmed) -then there will be a lawsuit. The west should make this clear beforehand...The only question is, will it have to be an actual, final list from the arbitrators before that seniority regime can be legally or technically compared to the Nic?

But, if for some reason the Nic ordering legally fails to hold, there is something else that might give the black, scheming pirate-hearts of Usapians cause to flutter....Since any widebody fences would be long gone had an actual merger of pilot groups taken place...perhaps that 500-man cushion at the top of the Nic list won't be quite so sacrosanct where it concerns the exclusion of all west pilots...You may be robbing Peter to pay Paul...That seems to be a question the Easties are very very...very reluctant to answer...-if, in a three-way do over, does the west get credit only for its career expectations as of 2005...or should they be entitled to their share of the rapid upward movement the east has enjoyed recently? Methinks reasonable people would say the latter....

Originally Posted by R57 relay
That's a nice thought, and logical, but you are ignoring a ton of human nature. This has been a costly battle, but look at battles that cost millions of lives and took on a life of their own. It's usually not until one side is completely obliterated that you can calculate the true cost and then often the "winning" side finds out it cost them more than it was worth.

Originally Posted by Puros
This whole thing was a folly.
You sound like a third world dictator desperately attempting to justify genocide in an effort to "keep peace in my country" with your post. Terrorist, fight-to-the-death struggles belong in revolutions and civil wars, not among professional pilot groups and especially unions. Your union has wielded a scorched earth policy since it's inception, the "folly" is truly people like you.
The Syrian government can use a spin artist with your talents.
And no, I am not a "westie"

 

[Black Swan]

Ooooooh. Some board post as legal stuff.
Face it. You have nothing. Nothing but spin. That is why I wait until you guys step on it to come back and re state the obvious. Carry on.

 

[EastUS1]

Originally Posted by wiggy
I'm not as sophisticated as you clever book-readers,.....
 
Not a Westie...why would I not admit that if I were..

"Not a Westie...why would I not admit that if I were.." One can't help but see a whole host of reasons, but the "I'm not as sophisticated as you clever book-readers,....." might well explain things there, certainly at least, an understandable sense of kinship with the "spartans".
 
Great reference source there snap.

 

[snapthis]

"Not a Westie...why would I not admit that if I were.." One can't help but see a whole host of reasons, but the "I'm not as sophisticated as you clever book-readers,....." might well explain things there, certainly at least, an understandable sense of kinship with the "spartans".
 
Great reference source there snap.

 
It's a conspiracy! Anybody who disagrees with the East is a Westie.
 
Ok East.
 
😉

 

[Black Swan]

Crack?
What a tirade...sleep it off.
 
Based on what I'm reading on other forums, they are not buying the BS.............BSOriginally Posted by wiggy
Not a Westie...why would I not admit that if I were...do you have a hard time believing an impartial 3rd party could latch on to the ethical theme of "a pilot group not honoring their agreement"?...it is simply what it is...indicative of what most pilots in the industry think of your group...I give such characterizations of your group...you call it preaching...How can the unsavory implications of what your pilot group has done be termed "lies"? How can speculating on possibilities be termed lies? Do point out where I've lied in the above post...Originally Posted by jayme
I'm not as sophisticated as you clever book-readers, but if I was a former AWA pilot I'd be sure to ask why my union (the APA in this case) didn't use the arbitrated seniority list when integrating Airways with American.
If I didn't like the answer I'd sue the hell out of them.
Oh, and I hope the East eats a sh-t sandwich! A man's word should mean something.Originally Posted by wiggy
Ah, that bothersome, basic ethical theme that keeps popping up consistently from time to time...yet the Easties think if enough time passes by, and delaying technical legalities accumulate, somehow the role of human ethical nature will be forgotten in all of this, or finessed so it's distasteful implications will somehow be projected equally onto the West...R-57, I think jayme is talking about a sh!t sandwich over and above the pre-agreed to results of the Nic...I think he's actually wishing the East a little bit of ill-will...I can't imagine why such an "ignorant" disinterested 3rd party would want that...lol.
If the SLI does not keep the Nic ordering when merged with the APA list...(something that it appears judge Silver doesn't seem to contemplate when anticipating a seniority regime with which to compare the Nic...but it ain't rocket science...either the Nic ordering will be retained or it won't...with a 99.99% Usapian surety that if it is not, that the west will be harmed) -then there will be a lawsuit. The west should make this clear beforehand...The only question is, will it have to be an actual, final list from the arbitrators before that seniority regime can be legally or technically compared to the Nic?
But, if for some reason the Nic ordering legally fails to hold, there is something else that might give the black, scheming pirate-hearts of Usapians cause to flutter....Since any widebody fences would be long gone had an actual merger of pilot groups taken place...perhaps that 500-man cushion at the top of the Nic list won't be quite so sacrosanct where it concerns the exclusion of all west pilots...You may be robbing Peter to pay Paul...That seems to be a question the Easties are very very...very reluctant to answer...-if, in a three-way do over, does the west get credit only for its career expectations as of 2005...or should they be entitled to their share of the rapid upward movement the east has enjoyed recently? Methinks reasonable people would say the latter....Originally Posted by R57 relay
That's a nice thought, and logical, but you are ignoring a ton of human nature. This has been a costly battle, but look at battles that cost millions of lives and took on a life of their own. It's usually not until one side is completely obliterated that you can calculate the true cost and then often the "winning" side finds out it cost them more than it was worth.Originally Posted by Puros
This whole thing was a folly.
You sound like a third world dictator desperately attempting to justify genocide in an effort to "keep peace in my country" with your post. Terrorist, fight-to-the-death struggles belong in revolutions and civil wars, not among professional pilot groups and especially unions. Your union has wielded a scorched earth policy since it's inception, the "folly" is truly people like you.
The Syrian government can use a spin artist with your talents.
And no, I am not a "westie"

Ed Schmidt. Trader. A LOT of coincidental occurrences.

 

[Black Swan]

Welcome back to the line Ed. Let's hear your explanations.