2014 Pilot Discussion

[snapthis]

snap is still living in the past.  

 
It sure looks like the industry did an I-told-U-so back in 2008. Something about not forgetting so you don't repeat comes to mind.
 
The book of failed union experiments is about to be closed.

 

[Pi brat]

Still a riot!!

When you talk, for your own safety, place all sharp objects out of your arms reach.

I'm thinking that perhaps a helmet might be good standard equipment for this poor guy.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Still a riot!!

When you talk, for your own safety, place all sharp objects out of your arms reach.

 
No....don't tell him that!  I was thinking several boxes full of razor blades, rusty knives and dirty syringes within arms reach could be helpful for him.

 

[nevergiveup]

 
It sure looks like the industry did an I-told-U-so back in 2008. Something about not forgetting so you don't repeat comes to mind.
 
The book of failed union experiments is about to be closed.

it is now impossible to meet the conditions necessary to implement the Nic. Please respect the agreements! 

 

[snapthis]

it is now impossible to meet the conditions necessary to implement the Nic. Please respect the agreements!

Who's conditions and restrictions?

 

[Pi brat]

 
It sure looks like the industry did an I-told-U-so back in 2008. Something about not forgetting so you don't repeat comes to mind.
 
The book of failed union experiments is about to be closed.

No, most of what I hear is "Damn, they pulled it off!"

 

[snapthis]

No, most of what I hear is "Damn, they pulled it off!"

Sounds appropriate.

They pulled it off. As if it was a heist.

Eventually, the bad guys make mistakes and justice eventually is served as in recent news.

Reputed mobster pleads not guilty in 1978 Lufthansa heist that netted $5.8M
CBS/AP
Jan 23, 2014
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/alleged-bonanno-crime-family-member-arrested-in-1978-lufthansa-heist-that-netted-58m/

 

[nycbusdriver]

Sounds appropriate.

They pulled it off. As if it was a heist.

Eventually, the bad guys make mistakes and justice eventually is served as in recent news.

Reputed mobster pleads not guilty in 1978 Lufthansa heist that netted $5.8M
CBS/AP
Jan 23, 2014
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/alleged-bonanno-crime-family-member-arrested-in-1978-lufthansa-heist-that-netted-58m/

 
Yup.  No doubt you're right.  Just like the Lufthansa heist, in 36 years justice will be served and the Nicolau list will indeed be instated as the "only accepted seniority list" at US Airways!    😛  😀

 

[Claxon]

 

 
west pilots, the nic and Elvis are dead, get over it.

 

[luvthe9]

west pilots, the nic and Elvis are dead, get over it.

Very good advice, all you little scabs and thieves should take note. Especially Spinthis! Major west meltdown coming soon.

 

[exB717Flyer]

west pilots, the nic and Elvis are dead, get over it.

I'm curious what happens to your CIRP the day APA becomes our CBA, probably in April. Your level of denial is so deep you're gonna need a lot of help to cope. (And I'm not talking about Elvis.)

 

[luvthe9]

I'm curious what happens to your CIRP the day APA becomes our CBA, probably in April. Your level of denial is so deep you're gonna need a lot of help to cope. (And I'm not talking about Elvis.)

Back to you hole boy, A dam shame about those seagulls!

 

[Pi brat]

Sounds appropriate.

They pulled it off. As if it was a heist.

Eventually, the bad guys make mistakes and justice eventually is served as in recent news.

Reputed mobster pleads not guilty in 1978 Lufthansa heist that netted $5.8M
CBS/AP
Jan 23, 2014
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/alleged-bonanno-crime-family-member-arrested-in-1978-lufthansa-heist-that-netted-58m/

Nope, damn as in they are the first group to right an ALPA wrong in a long time. Heck, even I can admit that I was wrong about the possibility of that.

 

[nic4us]

So we have a bet? No bump-flush?
 
That's not at all what was said.
 
-The east merger committee tried to negotiate with the west. They couldn't come to an agreement-few thought we would be able to with our LOS/seniority difference.
-We went to arbitration where we proposed a LOS integration, with some protections for the west. Your side proposed an absurd ratio that would put over 900 pilots that were active on May 19.2005 below save-a-Dave.
-The east didn't modify their proposal at all, the west very little.
-Nic made his award
-The east didn't like it and said they would do whatever they could to prevent it's implementation and noted to EVERYONE that the TA had no required timeline for completion and without it's completion the Nicolau award could not be used.
-I don't know exactly what happened at WYE river, but have been told by a guy that was there that they tried to come up with a solution for everyone-it failed. ALPA tried to tell you of the dangers going forward to your group. You didn't listen, but whined when they came true.
-ALPA and it's east component wanted nothing to do with USAPA.
-Years later there is no DOH nor Nic. But, over the years the east pilots have continued to move forward, while the west has stagnated. Our new hires are in much better places than many of your 10 year F/Os. You have had fewer captain upgrades since 2007 than we have had in just a couple months bids. The Nic fight was over our attrition, and no matter what happens going forward, we captured a larger part of it.
-I cannot ever remember a bump-flush SLI
-The MOU abandoned a DOH east/west SLI AND the Nicolau award. You won a small victory there, but as usual, it's not enough.
-Our power player helped write MB. You are going to have to argue to the arbitration panel that they agreement you ratified was wrong and that the federal judge that you went to was wrong. Good luck with that. I'm not sure why USAPA would worry about it.
 
So, your history paper receives a D-, but you have been corrected. You are dismissed, go play in the sand and cacti.

Too funny, you handing out grades, after posting an inaccurate rewrite of history.

First, the MOU does not abandon the Nic Award. care to tell me in there where it does? I know you will point at something in the MOU that YOU misinterpret, but humor us all. Where does the MOU abandon the Nic?

Second, your informant who was at Wye River is full of sh!t...! Contray to popular belief, the West followed ALPA's advice. Freund will explain it to you soon enough when the SCAB union is no longer a representing CBA.

Third, the West proposal to Nicolau was not absurd. Frankly, you guys deserved even less than that, but it was understood that we couldn't just staple you. You know, company's letter regarding the seniority integrations.

Finally, usapa has a long weekend. Come Tuesday there is a deadline for the SLI protocol. I say they extend further, and blame the bad weather. Because there is just no way to make a deal with reneging POS scumbag SCABs. When you figure that out you will understand why the company told uscaba to Fuch off and then got the NMB to park negotiations.

 

[nic4us]

Back to you hole boy, A dam shame about those seagulls!

If I were a Dimwit Inbred...


Er, make that...If I were a Courtesy Borehole.....