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Aw, drunken Persian #1 is posting like crazy tonight.
 
All it takes to make you guys go nuts is to post once or twice, and then you get on a roll posting like crazy. Confident people don't do that, do they East? 
 
Have you challenged anyone to a contest yet?  They way you are posting, it probably is that new drinking game fad that is sweeping the nation, hic!
 
You'se should sleep it off, mighty Persian.  Find a new obsession, one that isn't so damaging to yourself.
 
Monkee said:
Have you challenged anyone to a contest yet?
 
Always, but what's the possible point? It isn't as if any of "you'se" mighty "spartans" are ever up to anything of the sort.  All I've seen lately is "I bowl 210"...Wow! 🙂 Sigh! Run along now princess, and have only the sweetest of dreams, precious little girl...Umm.."spartan soldier" 😉 "You'se" disrespect is merely a questionable "tribute" to your inadequate parent(s), upbringing,  and the sorry company you keep.
 
"Confident people don't do that, do they East?" Of course we do! You've no notions of even tournament bravado, it seems. Not that little "spartan" punks will ever know, but striding into an arena with a "Why did you others even bother to show up" attitude that's projected harms no one in tournament progress, ever. "spartans" couldn't  possibly understand any aspects fo the real world though, "you'se" being so much inmates of Fantasyland. 🙂
 
dca319 said:
We're all shaking our heads Holly...
 
 
"Then there are the Real Men of Genius. The original RMG, not the United AFA MEC.That of course would be the folks at the US Airline Pilots Association, AKA USAPA. USAPA still represents the pilots (fractured as the group is) at US Airways.The last time we talked about the folks at USAPA, they were objecting to the fact that the Allied Pilots Association had filed for single carrier status with the National Mediation Board. That objection was quickly, and quite effectively in my opinion, dismantled in a very adult fashion by the APA the next day. To put it another way, the adults in the room took care of the situation quite nicely. (Unlike what happened with ALPA in the original US Airways/America West situation.)But it appears the Real Men of Genius are not going down without a fight. (Guess there is still some money in the USAPA treasury to burn through.)We've detailed the issue here in the past, and frankly, my patience with pilots arguing over seniority lists -- when the process to determine all of this and more is pretty clear -- has grown thin. The APA is not, as USAPA argued in a missive this week, "making a last minute change to any protocol."Even worse, reading through the USAPA missives from this week, I find it ironic, er, amusing, er, frustrating, that the union seems to be using the very same arguments they used against ALPA in 2005 -- only this time they have reversed the situation. Or as someone wrote this week, "Ironically, every single point they raise would support the argument that the East and West pilots should STILL have separate unions! In fact, every point is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what they argued to the NMB back in 2007!"Exactly.As APA said in a letter to its members,"APA and the company have always understood that, at some point after a ruling by the NMB on the single-carrier proceeding, APA would assume representation for pilots at the two carriers and, as a consequence, take on a duty of fair representation to all of the pilots.In recognition of this legally mandated state of affairs, APA therefore agreed that, up until the time APA becomes the representative of the entire pilot group, USAPA would be the sole representative of the pilots at US Airways and handle the merger negotiations within its discretion.However, consistent with the law, once APA becomes the representative of all pilots, APA would of necessity displace USAPA and have authority as the certified collective bargaining representative over the process.USAPA has always insisted that it maintain institutional involvement and a degree of control over the process even after it ceases to be a lawful collective bargaining representative. That, however, cannot be the case under the law."(This was recently confirmed by a ruling of U.S. District Judge Silver in Arizona.)What is the end game here? Apparently the Real Men Of Genius have determined that if they can get the National Mediation Board to consider the dispute, that will delay the process long enough to allow USAPA to have a say in the seniority process.Yes, I'm sure you can see me shaking my head from here."
Yes, why would the APA fox want the keys to the hen house.
 
dca319 said:
Our drunken Persian is on a roll tonight!!  You go girl!
 
Wagers' open, little "spartan" pissant. PM at "you'se" earliest convenience should it ever occur to even poorly impersonate any even slight semblance of a "pilot"...but I'll admit that I'm mightilly impressed with your bowling claims. 🙂
 
Congrats East "you'se" won the contest tonight for #1 pathetic Persian.
 
Have another bottle of Scotch, your drunken postings are the only entertaining thing about you...
 
Monkee said:
Congrats East "you'se" won the contest tonight for #1 pathetic Persian.
 
Have another bottle of Scotch, your drunken postings are the only entertaining thing about you...
 
Why thank "you'se" princess. Confessedly; there's nothing whatsoever to suggest that you're even at all interesting or entertaining, save for the laughable value of your very existence, of course. 🙂 I'm going to guess that you're not happily married...?
 
No worries, at least "you'se" have your girlfriend Move2CLT/"dca" whatever to bond with and mutally nuture. I hope that's enough in life...?
 
Phoenix said:
Yes, why would the APA fox want the keys to the hen house.
 
Indeed. I've come to realize that the vast majority of supposed "spartans" are in fact, obvious idiots, (witness just this evenings merry exchanges) which both explains their ready ease to believe whatever Fantasyland/their "army" dictates, and otherwise, well, simply be completely oblivious to ANY aspect of reality.
 
Case in point, Prechillill: "I'm sure the APA will be fair to us all."...SERIOUSLY? One just could NOT even begin to believe such hopelessly naive, or simply entirely unaware, nonsensical fantasies,...well...save that such come from "spartans", and no/zip/ZERO intelligence testing was ever done by AWA, true fact, and we see the sorry results to this day. How else could ANYone hire "you'se" speakers, versus people capable of actually speaking english, just for starters ?
 
Res Judicata said:
The Nic award has never left the table.
 
 
 
BEFORE THE
NATIONAL MEDIATION BOARD
WASHINGTON, D.C.
______________________________________
:
In the Matter of: :
:
Application of Allied Pilots Association, :
alleging representation dispute pursuant to : NMB File No. CR-7110
Section 2, Ninth of the Railway Labor Act, :
involving Flight Deck Crew Members :
Of American Airlines, Inc., and :
US Airways, Inc. :
______________________________________ :
POSITION STATEMENT OF ALLIED PILOTS ASSOCIATION
 
 Section III. 1., on page 3
 
"Following the merger, US Airways, America West, their respective corporate parents, ALPA, the US Airways MEC and the America West MEC entered into a Transition Agreement that governed, among other things, how and when the East Pilots and West Pilots seniority lists would be integrated. Transition Agreement, attached as Exhibit 1. The Transition Agreement mandated that “[t]he seniority lists of America West pilots and US Airways pilots will be integrated in accordance with ALPA Merger Policy and submitted to the Airline Parties for acceptance,” and further required that “[t]he Airline Parties will accept such integrated seniority list, including conditions and restrictions."
 
Looks likes APA is aware of our little spat.
 
They will minimize their liability.
 
That's why this will go to arbitration. 
 
 
traderjake said:
 
 
 
BEFORE THE
NATIONAL MEDIATION BOARD
WASHINGTON, D.C.
______________________________________
:
In the Matter of: :
:
Application of Allied Pilots Association, :
alleging representation dispute pursuant to : NMB File No. CR-7110
Section 2, Ninth of the Railway Labor Act, :
involving Flight Deck Crew Members :
Of American Airlines, Inc., and :
US Airways, Inc. :
______________________________________ :
POSITION STATEMENT OF ALLIED PILOTS ASSOCIATION
 
 Section III. 1., on page 3
 
"Following the merger, US Airways, America West, their respective corporate parents, ALPA, the US Airways MEC and the America West MEC entered into a Transition Agreement that governed, among other things, how and when the East Pilots and West Pilots seniority lists would be integrated. Transition Agreement, attached as Exhibit 1. The Transition Agreement mandated that “[t]he seniority lists of America West pilots and US Airways pilots will be integrated in accordance with ALPA Merger Policy and submitted to the Airline Parties for acceptance,” and further required that “[t]he Airline Parties will accept such integrated seniority list, including conditions and restrictions."
 

 
 
 
The really cool thing about you getting elated about the possibility of others getting screwed is that it reveals how screwed you perceive yourself to already  be, and irreparably so, save some hope of possible company to share your misery.  🙂  Not to worry, if Alex Jones ever succeeds in pushing public distrust, suspicion, and animosity toward the local police to a tipping point of divorce we will all have misery enough to share.  
 
EastUS1 said:
"Confident people don't do that, do they East?" Of course we do! You've no notions of even tournament bravado, it seems. Not that little "spartan" punks will ever know, but striding into an arena with a "Why did you others even bother to show up" attitude that's projected harms no one in tournament progress, ever. "spartans" couldn't  possibly understand any aspects fo the real world though, "you'se" being so much inmates of Fantasyland. 🙂
 
That got a minus vote, so I must now ask for some obviously, far better qualified "spartan" to tell us all about how serious competition works...anyone? "You'se" are all supposed "war" heros, after all, heck!...I'll even take bowling scores here...? 😉
 
Phoenix said:
 
 
The really cool thing about you getting elated about the possibility of others getting screwed is that it reveals how screwed you perceive yourself to already  be, ... 
 
I'd only be surpirsed if he doesn't wake up everyday to immediately don a hair shirt, and start flogging himself for his obvious inadequacies. 😉
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FucbvoFFy0
 
EastUS1 said:
 
I'd only be surpirsed if he doesn't wake up everyday to immediately don a hair shirt, and start flogging himself for his obvious inadequacies. 😉
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FucbvoFFy0
 
 
No one ever accused him of a lack of respect.  He's got that going for him.  
 
Phoenix said:
 
 
No one ever accused him of a lack of respect.  He's got that going for him.  
 
 LOL...Fair enough then. I'll leave it to being just a poorly considered deflection shot, that sadly, left only the likes of chip available to hit on then. 😉
 
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