2014 Pilot Discussion

[nevergiveup]

That's because we are smarter. You boot a union for a weak association who has no leverage going into the merger with AA. You're a loser and the laughing stock of this industry. I've never had the luxury of being associated with the dumbest, short-sighted DOHlts in aviation........Idiots.

Wye River? Oh, go cry me a river. It's more like whine river.

The West laughs at you, the APA laughs at you, the company laughes at you as noted in the latest filing.
The sooner U-saps pack your bags and get the hell off our property, the better. It's time to hand the keys over to the adults. Run along now and do something productive like filling out the application for your new union.

Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 303 Filed 03/03/14

Consistent with this Courts observation, USAPA [has] change[d] its position
when it needs to do so to fit its hard and unyielding view on seniority. (Doc. No. 298
at 20:23-21:1.) Although it obviously does not agree with this Courts ruling that it has no
right to participate in the seniority-integration process once it is decertified as the
collective bargaining representative for the pre-merger US Airways pilots, USAPA should
be expected to abide by this Courts Order or, alternatively, seek relief from that Order
with a proper motion of its own. USAPAs request to delete the additional statements
from this Courts Order will only facilitate further contumacious behavior on its part. The
request should be denied.

Poor Snap needs to vent! Go ahead, we're listening. 

 

[Claxon]

Poor Snap needs to vent! Go ahead, we're listening.

The fun rants come from Kiwi and Res Judicata.
Res practically has a coronary from that pent up anger the Feds clued in on.

 

[Claxon]

Claxstradomas thinks Bob Crandall is in USAPA's corner. 

No, Bob is in Bobs' corner. The one that sees the APA losing all those wide body seats. He is clearly telling the APA to be smart and not let a third party do their future.
Good advice.

 

[Claxon]

A federal Judge blew the head off your fake union. You are entirely irrelevant. Get used to it. Nobody gives half a Schitt about you scabs.

Like this one.

 

[Claxon]

Kiwi forgets we spell answer differently in this country.

 

[Claxon]

The fun rants come from Kiwi and Res Judicata.
Res practically has a coronary from that pent up anger the Feds clued in on. Snap just goes off on the " I am rich, vacation in Mexico, am a kept man with a rich wife, drive a suburban, BMW, etc fantasy that gets him through his misery..

 

[end_of_alpa]

That's because we are smarter. You boot a union for a weak association who has no leverage going into the merger with AA. You're a loser and the laughing stock of this industry. I've never had the luxury of being associated with the dumbest, short-sighted DOHlts in aviation........Idiots.
Wye River? Oh, go cry me a river. It's more like whine river.

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The West laughs at you, the APA laughs at you, the company laughes at you as noted in the latest filing. The sooner U-saps pack your bags and get the hell off our property, the better. It's time to hand the keys over to the adults. Run along now and do something productive like filling out the application for your new union.
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 303 Filed 03/03/14
Consistent with this Courts observation, USAPA [has] change[d] its position
when it needs to do so to fit its hard and unyielding view on seniority. (Doc. No. 298
at 20:23-21:1.) Although it obviously does not agree with this Courts ruling that it has no right to participate in the seniority-integration process once it is decertified as the collective bargaining representative for the pre-merger US Airways pilots, USAPA should
be expected to abide by this Courts Order or, alternatively, seek relief from that Order with a proper motion of its own. USAPAs request to delete the additional statements from this Courts Order will only facilitate further contumacious behavior on its part. The
request should be denied.

Funny that when USAPA rips the game plan of AOL out of their play book and uses it they become the bad guys. Looking forward to many more years of so much legal wrangling that APA and ALPA will become irrelevant. The new hires don't understand seniority and don't care.

Instant Captains off the street....the new APA reality.

See you on the line.

 

[end_of_alpa]

No, Bob is in Bobs' corner. The one that sees the APA losing all those wide body seats. He is clearly telling the APA to be smart and not let a third party do their future.
Good advice.

Now there's the TRUTH of it.

 

[Phoenix]

Silver seems to have pent up anger too. She used her dicta in a DFR trial on the merits in order to sneak in a quasi declaratory judgement on matters that were never entered into evidence, much less even shown to be in her jurisdiction, ripe, or briefed... Get this..about future, contingent events! She is no better than a bookie making odds.

Just like the West had to answer for their unauthorized crew room "wall of scabs" that featured cell phone pics of East "scabs", silver will have to answer for writing dicta that intentionally or inadvertently causes future harm to the defendant that she purportedly exonerated in a trial about past actions.

 

[algflyr]

 
Claxstradomas thinks Bob Crandall is in USAPA's corner. 

 
What's funnier is that you think the APA is in the West's corner... 

 

[Phoenix]

Oh it WILL be done. . How about the NMB just set up a representational vote? You don't have a problem with democracy right?

All hail to the chief of endless implicit assumption examples.

 

[traderjake]

No, Bob is in Bobs' corner. The one that sees the APA losing all those wide body seats. He is clearly telling the APA to be smart and not let a third party do their future.
Good advice.

 
Claxtradamus thinks he can scare APA into giving in to USAPA's demands.
 
USAPA is the one that needs to avoid arbitration  and APA knows it .

 

[traderjake]

 
What's funnier is that you think the APA is in the West's corner... 

 
Only to the the extent that they both want slotting by equipment and status and they have a common enemy.
 
You.  

 

[nevergiveup]

 
Claxtradamus thinks he can scare APA into giving in to USAPA's demands.
 
USAPA is the one that needs to avoid arbitration  and APA knows it .

I believe your are incorrect. APA is the one looking to avoid arbitration, this is why GH asked for the list of arbitrators. If it does go to arbitration, and probably will, can two unions negotiate a JCBA? Perhaps they can or cannot legally, but you can't have two cooks in the kitchen, it just doesn't work. 

 

[end_of_alpa]

Silver seems to have pent up anger too. She used her dicta in a DFR trial on the merits in order to sneak in a quasi declaratory judgement on matters that were never entered into evidence, much less even shown to be in her jurisdiction, ripe, or briefed... Get this..about future, contingent events! She is no better than a bookie making odds.

Just like the West had to answer for their unauthorized crew room "wall of scabs" that featured cell phone pics of East "scabs", silver will have to answer for writing dicta that intentionally or inadvertently causes future harm to the defendant that she purportedly exonerated in a trial about past actions.

Didn't hear about the wall of scabs.  What was that all about?