2014 Pilot Discussion

[luvthe9]

Totally meaningless.
Appears this is going to arbitration now under rules of M/B.
USAPA will not be folded into APA unrepresented.
Mike Cleary kept the Nic away with the help of west pilots. Thank you.
Ferguson truly miscalculated your careers.

I understand Senator Claire McCaskill had a few visitors at her office in DC recently and was made aware of certain parties trying to circumnavigate her bill, I'm sure you can figure out her response.

 

[Freighterguynow]

http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_304_Order.pdf
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It sure is taking a long time for USAPA to spin this.
Is it a win when court says USAPA should have pressed the court? Sounds like a dropped ball has been noticed .

Wake 2. You lost every time.

Relax.

 

[luvthe9]

HA!!! Oh yes. The total death of USAPA and the confiscation of all funds is "meaningless".
You're one looney scab Mike. Take your bi- polar meds ahole.

How do you live with such frustration, must really suck being you, hey how bout a polygraph? HA!!!!

 

[luvthe9]

It’s time to take a good look in the rear-view mirror. If we had a single contract in place, the NIC would also be in place. Sure, we would probably still have USAPA. But long before the East removed ALPA, we would have been operating under a single contract, with the Nicolau seniority list in place. Next time you go to a training center brown bag lunch, before you go after the company and the East, keep in mind how close we were to a TA prior to the NIC.



We did it to ourselves, guys.

Dave Blomgren, for the U-Turn

 

[EastUS1]

Damn. You eastholes are equal part coward and pus$y. Pathetic.

 
Sigh! "You'se" clearly can't, on your best day ever, even manage so much as a purely recreational/non-lethal-in-any-way flying wager for merely sport and a few bucks. Feel perfectly free to prove me wrong...No? Were your fantasized "knightly valor" ever tested in any actual conflict; I'd honestly expect "you'se" to prove entirely worthless, and afterwards, only be finally found still running away and screaming for "Mommy!". You certainly evidence the traits associated with such sorry sorts. Get over your grandiose delusions and generally insane little self, mighty "spartan"/internet-tough-guy, and do seek out some much-needed and long-overdue psychiatric help. That last being an honest and kindly suggestion for the betterment of your currently sad excuse for a "life".

 

[luvthe9]

From what we’ve been told, Jeff Freund left the Wye River conference out of frustration over our MEC’s refusal to negotiate a compromise. Our MEC says they held the line. If failure to negotiate, causing 175 furloughs, is holding the line, great job, guys. The East MEC made an offer that would have prevented Dave O’Dell from being furloughed. You turned it down.


So, if you still think our MEC were heroes at Wye River, tell that to our bottom 175 pilots. All we can say is when you update your resume’, just remember who didn’t “SAVE DAVE.”

 

[Freighterguynow]

Some fat guy might throw a half eaten fried chicken leg at me.

I was in Vegas on one of those beds had a mirror on the ceiling. Woke up in the middle of the the night AND A NAKED SKY DIVER WAS ABOUT TO FALL ON ME !

Bill Cosby

 

[luvthe9]

We now have a better picture what the East MEC had on the table: an 8 year fence, furloughs by longevity (LOS), MDA time not counting for longevity, Dave ODell having 400 pilots below him, and the Nic surviving as THE LIST. Yes, the East offered the NIC. They just wanted to protect their retirement attrition, which stalled by the change in Age-60. Looking back, that offer must look like a home run to any West pilot right now, but last February the EAST MEC and ALPA couldnt get to first base with it.

Our former MEC and our union leadership played a very high stakes game of poker by not dealing at Wye River. Freund was right, we were risking everything..and right now, it looks like we lost. They need to take responsibility for that.

YES, THE EAST OFFERED THE NIC.........THEY NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT...........


AWA, what a dumb group!!!!!

 

[EastUS1]

I was in Vegas on one of those beds had a mirror on the ceiling. Woke up in the middle of the the night AND A NAKED SKY DIVER WAS ABOUT TO FALL ON ME !

Bill Cosby

 
Well..."What happens in Vegas"/etc, I suppose. I'll admit a naked skydiver about to impact would prove a bit disconcerting, but....was she at least cute? The Devil's always in the details. Sorry, but this place was getting a bit too "serious". I do fondly recall Cosby's routine there. 😉

 

[Claxon]

 
"NATIONAL AIRLINE JOBS. National airlines are smaller airlines which operate smaller jets such as the Boeing 737 or Douglas MD-80 series. Examples of these are America West, Frontier, and Jet Blue. In general, they pay somewhat less (top pay in the low to mid $100,000 range) and are a little less strict in terms of a 4-year degree and other personal factors. They do, however, have similar flight experience requirements as the major airlines."
 

 

[EastUS1]

 

 
"NATIONAL AIRLINE JOBS. National airlines are smaller airlines which operate smaller jets such as the Boeing 737 or Douglas MD-80 series. Examples of these are America West, Frontier, and Jet Blue. In general, they pay somewhat less (top pay in the low to mid $100,000 range) and are a little less strict in terms of a 4-year degree and other personal factors. They do, however, have similar flight experience requirements as the major airlines."
 

 

 
How truly generous is that? Translation: If it's got a pulse and opposable thumbs, and no one anywhere else would ever hire it, we/AWA will! = Merely "a little less strict in terms of a 4-year degree and other personal factors"...Seriously? 🙂
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT8H9smpK3U&list=PL5DCDEE4D2ADA2659

 

[Phoenix]

Don't worry, Pheonix and end_of_alpa will expain why Silver is wrong again before USAPA can find the right spin.

Silver's amended order is fine the way it is. Her amendment was a good one.

 

[Phoenix]

http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_304_Order.pdf
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It sure is taking a long time for USAPA to spin this.
Is it a win when court says USAPA should have pressed the court? Sounds like a dropped ball has been noticed .

Why hasn't Ferggie told you what the order means?

 

[end_of_alpa]

Silver's amended order is fine the way it is. Her amendment was a good one.

I concure. Nothing to see here.....move along.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Why hasn't Ferggie told you what the order means?

He KNOWS what it means..... The TRUTH HURTS!