2014 Pilot Discussion

[luvthe9]

Only Trader and Munn still have not figured out how bad Ferguson set up his group. They are in a very bad position now, due to him.

And we now know Munn was working closely with Mike (since Mike got his job back) to help feed the west misinformation, what a great team.

 

[luvthe9]

Well word is AOL has told their boys to stay off this board because of the pending summer of discontent in PHX. Seems lack of action on this board signifies their intent.

 

[EastUS1]

Well word is AOL has told their boys to stay off this board because of the pending summer of discontent in PHX. Seems lack of action on this board signifies their intent.

 
"summer of discontent in PHX"? Gulp! That sounds serious! One can almost imagine them holding their breath 'till they'd make a fine cosplay impersonation of smurfs. 😉

 

[nevergiveup]

 
BPR Special Meeting Notice
In accordance with the USAPA Constitution & Bylaws Article V Section 3, and USAPA UOM Section 3 Paragraph II.a.1, President Gary Hummel has called a Special Meeting of the USAPA Board of Pilot Representatives, at the USAPA offices in Charlotte. It will commence at 0905 ET on Thursday, June 5, 2014, and conclude at 1700 ET or at the conclusion of business. We anticipate most of this one-day meeting will be in closed session.
The agenda for this meeting is:

1. NAC JCBA Review
2. Merger Committee Update

Prior to commencing the Special Meeting for June 5, President Gary Hummel will reconvene the Special BPR Meeting Conference Call from April 28 at 0900 ET, for the purpose of officially adjourning the meeting. (Note – the Conference Call was not properly adjourned since the conference call system ended the call before adjournment.)
USAPA Communications
I wonder why this meeting is being called? Hummmm???? USAPA = Pyrrhic Victory. The UELs and USAPA may have done it again.

To discuss the sale of the Phoenix operation.

 

[Phoenix]

 
"summer of discontent in PHX"? Gulp! That sounds serious! One can almost imagine them holding their breath 'till they'd make a fine cosplay impersonation of smurfs. 😉

 
 
They are going to hold a closed convention, put all their liberty ties in the furnace, and wait for the smoke to determine their new leader.  

 

[Phoenix]

To discuss the sale of the Phoenix operation.

 
 
The 43 slide presentation was that last straw.  

 

[Pi brat]

 

I wonder why this meeting is being called? Hummmm???? USAPA = Pyrrhic Victory. The UELs and USAPA may have done it again.

Hey! More posts with questions that make USA320 look soooo smart. Kinda like these from the past:
 
09/12/2007 USA320 said "If USAPA is not going to represent all of the new US Airways pilots then why are the former AWA pilots so emotional?

If the Nicolau Award implementation is such a "slam dunk" then why are the former AWA pilots so emotional?

Regards,

USA320Pilot"
 
On 9/13/2007 USA320 said "Junebug & AWA320,

It is my understanding you are in for some big surprises in the not-to-distant future and John Prater just told a colleague of mine that his goal is to get both sides to the table and if they didnt work together to "let them stew in their juices".

Furthermore, USAPA now has about 2,400 cards. On September 17 the next furlough recall class will commence and USAPA will know from sources at the CLT Training Center exactly who will return to the company and who will not. The last furlough recall class will be held in a couple of weeks and then USAPA will know exactly which representational cards are valid and which ones would be voided.

When the number of cards is compared to the combined seniority list (with an exact/certified US Airways - AWA pilot list obtained from George Nicolau's Award), USAPA will know exactly how many cards are necessary to to have the NMB order an election. Therefore, the Company's recall timing is perfect and welcome news to USAPA''s Officer's.

By the way, if you would like to print an authoirization card click here.

By the way, I'm sure you're wondering if electing a new bargaining agent enhance our ability to redress the inequities of the Nicolau award?

Well, I understand the Nicolau Award is the product of an ALPA-mandated process and ALPA is bound to defend that process. The ALPA-US Airways MEC cannot prevail in its current litigation because it voluntarily submitted to the ALPA-mandated process. The USAPA, however, is not bound by ALPA's Constitution and cannot be subjected to ALPA’s political control. USAPA will assert its right under the Railway Labor Act to negotiate over the terms of any seniority integration. Under the RLA, seniority is a mandatory subject of bargaining.

By the way, did you see this letter?

I know, I know, you're going to threaten a DFR lawsuit and I say go ahead. As you know Lee Seham indicated believes your new/pending union, USAPA, has a federally protected right under the RLA to change union representatives. A successor union, such as the USAPA, has the legal right to negotiate changes in the terms and conditions of employment, including seniority. Federal courts have routinely upheld a union’s right to address seniority issues within a wide range of reasonableness.

Finally, I understand USAP nees 50% +1 of the total pilot voting population to force an election. The NMB will determine the pool of eligible pilot-voters from which this number is derived. This number includes, all active pilots East and West, furloughed pilots not working for another airline, pilots on medical leave and LOA or military leave. The MDA pilots and J4J pilots may or may not be included, that will be determined by the NMB - therefore it is critical that MDA and J4J pilots submit Authorization Cards.

Regards,

USA320Pilot"
 
Instead of parroting "Pyrrhic Victory, Pyrrhic Victory!", why don't you go look the word up and see if maybe Judge Silver got it wrong. While you are there in the P's, look up Pariah. See if you picture is there beside it.
 
I can't believe you would even post here anymore.

 

[Zone5]

To discuss the sale of the Phoenix operation.

Wouldn't that be "dream come true"? I'm sure PHX would prefer to be going their own way, no?


seajay

 

[dariencc]

Wouldn't that be "dream come true"? I'm sure PHX would prefer to be going their own way, no?
seajay

No, it would kill Johnny Jerkov not to be able to post "American Airlines pilot" on his Facebook page.

 

[EastUS1]

Phoenix: They are going to hold a closed convention, put all their liberty ties in the furnace, and wait for the smoke to determine their new leader.
 
Zone5, on 29 May 2014 - 3:23 PM, said: Wouldn't that be "dream come true"? I'm sure PHX would prefer to be going their own way, no?
seajay

No, it would kill Johnny Jerkov not to be able to post "American Airlines pilot" on his Facebook page.

 
Well gentlemen; regardless of the eventual outcome....they'll at least have the deep satisfaction of knowing they have proudly "served" mighty "sparta", and been actively part of (I'm not making this up guys. This really is a quote from these boards dating a few years back, from no less than their very own lying and proven fake "war hero" Nicelandingcaptain, whom dariencc will likely remember from chat here as well) "an inexorable glacier of righteousness"...and they'll even have a few "collectible" T-shirts/ties/whatever...not to mention all those AWAsome videos! 😉
 
A truly "classier" bunch of "Pilots" couldn't be found anywhere outside of AWA/PHX methinks.
 
P.S. Hmm...I now wonder if "an inexorable glacier of righteousness" just didn't fit well on T-shirts, or whether or not enough of the "spartans" could even read and understand the verbiage...? 🙂

 

[Phoenix]

Hey! More posts with questions that make USA320 look soooo smart. Kinda like these from the past:
...Federal courts have routinely upheld a union’s right to address seniority issues within a wide range of reasonableness....

Regards,

USA320Pilot"

 
 
Every now and then USA320 stumbles upon a nugget.  Even a broken clock is right twice a day (if it is analog )

 

[EastUS1]

 
 
Every now and then USA320 stumbles upon a nugget.  Even a broken clock is right twice a day (if it is analog )

 
Hmm...Recent postings would indicate that the sad creature's apparently gone digital, presumably to avoid the unhappy possibility of ever being at all right. 😉

 

[EastUS1]

To discuss the sale of the Phoenix operation.

 
 
I'll open the bidding at two cents....Just for the "value" of the T-shirts and ties, of course.

 

[Claxon]

I imagine organizing an illegal job action is grueling work.
 
You want to help Mike buy a cake from Pheonix.
 
Be foreworned, they're only half baked.

You will have to ask Ferguson. He is probably planning one as we speak. It is all he has left.
That is likely the explanation of the absence of your pals. They are covering their tracks.
The Braid presentation went nowhere. Leonidas is flat broke, and Freund gave them a re hash of Wye River. Simply put, your pals are up against the wall.
Just remember, Steve Gay reported and tweeted all about the injunction the west pilots are now under. Be careful out there.

 

[Claxon]

Too bad for you and luvthe9 that Hummel beat your recall by a very large margin.
 
Cleary on the other hand couldn't run for re election because he knew he would lose.

Maybe he would have lost an election.
But for sure he didn't lose his seniority.