2014 Pilot Discussion

[Pi brat]

The 517 at the top of the list was the number of WB Captain and F/O positions.

That's not what you said.

 

[electricjet98]

Excerpt of APA Update:

DOMICILE MEETINGS

ORD—Sept. 19, 9 a.m., Carlucci Rosemont. AA President Scott Kirby will be available to answer YOUR questions about topics YOU feel are important. Location easily accessible from ORD by a dedicated Carlucci shuttle or the Marriott Suites O'Hare shuttle bus. Lunch will be served. Please see the email for more details. RSVP.
DCA—Sept. 25, 10 a.m., conference room on 2nd floor of US Airways concourse. Joint APA/USAPA meeting. APA Vice President FO Neil Roghair will attend. Chief Pilot Steve Wyble will discuss DCA flying and the merger of our operations.
LAX—Sept. 29. Primary purpose: Vote on PHX pilot applications for APA membership.
LGA—Sept. 30, 10 a.m., LGA Courtyard by Marriott, adjacent to LGA airport. In addition to voting in new applicants, we will have a member of the AA Pilots Seniority Integration Committee on hand to speak about their preparations for those negotiations and possible arbitration. Coffee and bagels starting at 9:30 a.m.
STL—Oct. 14, 9:30 a.m., Lake Forest Country Club. 10th annual APA Family Awareness golf outing and domicile meeting. RSVP: CA Marcus Spiegel, stl.vice.apa@gmail.com. Lunch will be served; RSVP to ensure proper meal count. Topics: status of JCBA negotiations, seniority integration process, single-carrier/representation update, STL survey.
 
 
Almost gives the impression that APA wants nothing to do with pilots from other bases!

 

[EastUS1]

....Can't wait to see how the APA handles this little gnat of an LLC ALREADY attempting to be a defacto union.

 
Think about what you just said for a moment...(as if the term "think" could ever be applied to you)...."You'se" bunch are always good for some chuckles. 😉 Just how many monuments to your little LLC/"army" do you honestly imagine the APA's busily commissioning? 🙂
 
Your bunch is in for a rude awakening in fairly short order.

 

[traderjake]

That's not what you said.

 
You're really grasping at straws.
 


 
APA would love to see a Nicolau type award between the 3 groups that puts all their WB Captains and F/O positions at the top of the list.

 

[nevergiveup]

 
How are they going to pay the rent and phone bill on Woodlawn Rd?
 
With unrefunded dues money?
 
Sounds like a lawsuit and jail time to me.

You should file a lawsuit! Call Marty and send him some more money.

 

[traderjake]

You should file a lawsuit! Call Marty and send him some more money.

 
No need to call, you can donate online
 
http://www.cactuspilotcontributors.com/contribute.html

 

[EastUS1]

Excerpt of APA Update:

DOMICILE MEETINGS

ORD—Sept. 19, 9 a.m., Carlucci Rosemont. AA President Scott Kirby will be available to answer YOUR questions about topics YOU feel are important. Location easily accessible from ORD by a dedicated Carlucci shuttle or the Marriott Suites O'Hare shuttle bus. Lunch will be served. Please see the email for more details. RSVP.
DCA—Sept. 25, 10 a.m., conference room on 2nd floor of US Airways concourse. Joint APA/USAPA meeting. APA Vice President FO Neil Roghair will attend. Chief Pilot Steve Wyble will discuss DCA flying and the merger of our operations.
LAX—Sept. 29. Primary purpose: Vote on PHX pilot applications for APA membership.
LGA—Sept. 30, 10 a.m., LGA Courtyard by Marriott, adjacent to LGA airport. In addition to voting in new applicants, we will have a member of the AA Pilots Seniority Integration Committee on hand to speak about their preparations for those negotiations and possible arbitration. Coffee and bagels starting at 9:30 a.m.
STL—Oct. 14, 9:30 a.m., Lake Forest Country Club. 10th annual APA Family Awareness golf outing and domicile meeting. RSVP: CA Marcus Spiegel, stl.vice.apa@gmail.com. Lunch will be served; RSVP to ensure proper meal count. Topics: status of JCBA negotiations, seniority integration process, single-carrier/representation update, STL survey.
 
 
Almost gives the impression that APA wants nothing to do with pilots from other bases!

 
"Vote on PHX pilot applications for APA membership."...?
 
Or, they might be considering how to handle the applications from actual scabs. They would very hard pressed to find any coming from anywhere but PHX, after all.
 
"Almost gives the impression that APA wants nothing to do with pilots from other bases!" From the glaringly demonstrated stupidity and overall "innocence" of that magnitude, (and countless other reasons); I've no doubt that the APA already have "you'se" marked as gullible and easily manipulated, useful idiots to play as they wish.
 
The folks at the APA are purely your competitors where seniority integration's concerned, and, no matter what even your very most cherished fantasies might be, are, most certainly NOT your "best friends forever." 😉

 

[Pi brat]

You're really grasping at straws.
 


 
APA would love to see a Nicolau type award between the 3 groups that puts all their WB Captains and F/O positions at the top of the list.

Big difference. WB F/Os were just like the rest of us, unless they were in the top 517 of the list.

 

[algflyr]

Excerpt of APA Update:

DOMICILE MEETINGS

ORD—Sept. 19, 9 a.m., Carlucci Rosemont. AA President Scott Kirby will be available to answer YOUR questions about topics YOU feel are important. Location easily accessible from ORD by a dedicated Carlucci shuttle or the Marriott Suites O'Hare shuttle bus. Lunch will be served. Please see the email for more details. RSVP.
DCA—Sept. 25, 10 a.m., conference room on 2nd floor of US Airways concourse. Joint APA/USAPA meeting. APA Vice President FO Neil Roghair will attend. Chief Pilot Steve Wyble will discuss DCA flying and the merger of our operations.
LAX—Sept. 29. Primary purpose: Vote on PHX pilot applications for APA membership.
LGA—Sept. 30, 10 a.m., LGA Courtyard by Marriott, adjacent to LGA airport. In addition to voting in new applicants, we will have a member of the AA Pilots Seniority Integration Committee on hand to speak about their preparations for those negotiations and possible arbitration. Coffee and bagels starting at 9:30 a.m.
STL—Oct. 14, 9:30 a.m., Lake Forest Country Club. 10th annual APA Family Awareness golf outing and domicile meeting. RSVP: CA Marcus Spiegel, stl.vice.apa@gmail.com. Lunch will be served; RSVP to ensure proper meal count. Topics: status of JCBA negotiations, seniority integration process, single-carrier/representation update, STL survey.
 
 
Almost gives the impression that APA wants nothing to do with pilots from other bases!

 
This was published today. Interesting that they say the DCA meeting will be a joint APA/USAPA meeting...

 

[EastUS1]

I have this guy from Nigeria that emails telling me I won the national lottery. Do think the company could do anything about him?

 
Doubtful, since he's probably on the company payroll. 😉 Just imagine the board meeting minutes: ACARS theft, BS bankruptcy scams, stolen pensions, well below industry level pay and even disparate pay for the same work, no more profit sharing, It's not enough! No one's shown enough intiative lately! This is serious! We need to find more ways to take from our employees!...Hmm...Hey! I've got it!...How 'bout we out-source our work a bit and hire some Nigerian con artists? 🙂

 

[CactusPilot1]

"Vote on PHX pilot applications for APA membership."...?
 
Or, they might be considering how to handle the applications from actual scabs. They would very hard pressed to find any coming from anywhere but PHX, after all.
 
"Almost gives the impression that APA wants nothing to do with pilots from other bases!" From the glaringly demonstrated stupidity and overall "innocence" of that magnitude, (and countless other reasons); I've no doubt that the APA already have "you'se" marked as gullible and easily manipulated, useful idiots to play as they wish.
 
The folks at the APA are purely your competitors where seniority integration's concerned, and, no matter what even your very most cherished fantasies might be, are, most certainly NOT your "best friends forever." 😉

Scabs?

That's a great idea, Commander! They got two names from the U-R-irrelevant inner circle and a Continental Seniority list from the mid-80's.


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[EastUS1]

Scabs?

That's a great idea, Commander! They got two names from the U-R-irrelevant inner circle and a Continental Seniority list from the mid-80's.


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"From the glaringly demonstrated stupidity and overall "innocence" of that magnitude, (and countless other reasons); I've no doubt that the APA already have "you'se" marked as gullible and easily manipulated, useful idiots to play as they wish."
 
Good luck kid. 😉

 

[CactusPilot1]

"From the glaringly demonstrated stupidity and overall "innocence" of that magnitude, (and countless other reasons); I've no doubt that the APA already have "you'se" marked as gullible and easily manipulated, useful idiots to play as they wish."
 
Good luck kid. 😉

Thanks Commander.

Are you getting your APA updates yet. It looks like the APA would like to meet those Scabs rather than just phoning a reservation.

Here you go!
Also today, the board approved a motion directing the Negotiating Committee to withdraw the jumpseat reservations system proposal and suspend discussion on it pending further board direction.

 

[flyer63]

But now us "Westicles" will be upgrading into all the left seats. I'm easily going to be a line holding group2 captain with weekends off. Perseverance, courage and unity got us here- you wouldn't understand.

Too bad.. by the time this is settled all those furloghed east will be in the left seat... no bump no flush. No soup for you

 

[CactusPilot1]

Too bad.. by the time this is settled all those furloghed east will be in the left seat... no bump no flush. No soup for you

Rigghhhht, by the time this is settled you'll be right seat -190 flying those new domestic routes added in CLT and PHL. Int'l Miami bound.