AA EYES DELTA DFW HANGAR

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American eyes vacant Delta hangar at D/FW

By TREBOR BANSTETTER

STAR-TELEGRAM STAFF WRITER



Delta shut down the hangar in April 2005 after closing its hub at D/FW.



One of the last vestiges of the Delta Air Lines hub at Dallas/Fort Worth Airport is likely to soon vanish.



American Airlines has asked to take over the old Delta maintenance hangar at the airport, which has long sported that airline's name in giant letters visible to travelers driving north through the facility. The hangar has been vacant since April 2005, after Delta closed its D/FW hub and eliminated 92 percent of its local flights.



Initially, American plans to base 80 employees at the building and could eventually add up to 500 there, according to airport documents.



American, based in Fort Worth, has proposed renting the hangar for $3 million annually through 2009, with an option to extend the lease for an additional 15 years. The airline would also perform necessary repairs, which include reactivating a fire-suppression system and removing bird waste accumulated over the years.



The airport would reimburse American up to $900,000 for the repairs, according to airport documents.



Officials with American declined to comment on the proposed lease, which will be considered by the airport's board of directors next week. The lease would include the hangar, an adjacent ramp area, an employee parking lot and a utility plant and system.



The 180,000-square-foot hangar has three bays for wide-body airplanes and three spaces for narrow-body aircraft. The lease site covers about 46 acres.



Delta used the hangar for overnight maintenance. American would use the space to work on Boeing 777s, according to airport documents, and for a scheduled reconfiguration of its MD-80 cabins.



Airport officials have been trying to find a tenant for the hangar since Delta abandoned it.



American already has four maintenance hangars at the airport, which is its largest hub. It was unclear whether the new hangar would bring new work to D/FW or shift work from other sites at the airport.



The airline, the world's largest, has been expanding its maintenance operations in recent years by doing work for other airlines at facilities in Fort Worth, Tulsa and Kansas City.



Most other airlines, meanwhile, have increasingly been outsourcing aircraft maintenance, often to companies based overseas.



Shares of AMR Corp., American's parent company (ticker: AMR) closed at $26.35, down $1.34, in trading Friday.
 
WOW, just think, they could make really large "AA.com" worth millions and put it on the side of that hangar where everyone could see it.

It too would pay for itself, like all other corporate expenses.
 
American would use the space to work on Boeing 777s, according to airport documents, and for a scheduled reconfiguration of its MD-80 cabins.

I assume that the cub reporter, Trebor, goofed on this one; maybe someone mentioned the planned reconfiguration of the 757 cabins and Trebor wrote MD-80s? 762s? The 777 F and J cabins are scheduled to be reconfigured.

Any planned refurb to the MD-80 cabins?
 
Word here is that AA will move into the hanger end of june or early july. The MD-80 galley MOD will move over there and possibly some sort of widebody chk. This is all being done beceause according to AA, we need the space for contract maint. seems we have turned down several other airlines who wanted work performed cause we didn't have the hanger space. The rumor last night was that SFO was losing a 767 B chk and we were making room for that to come here to the Delta hanger.My guess is that AA will spend millions upgradeing the hanger only to have it sit empty for a year or so, then turn it into a plush parking garage or corperate lounge for management when they fly out or through DFW.(no labor allowed).
 
[ smells like a trojan horse mci.
<_< ---Believe me, we're quit aware of what's going on there at Dallas. But as I see it there's plenty work to go around for everyone! With the rest of the CIP program, the possibility of Government work, and the wing let mods.Plus 767 pylon mods.------ Plenty to keep us busy!----Oh! has anyone heard anything about who got the UPS contract? I thought they were supposed to announce who got it last month, but haven't heard a thing!---- ;)
 
Word here is that AA will move into the hanger end of june or early july. The MD-80 galley MOD will move over there and possibly some sort of widebody chk. This is all being done beceause according to AA, we need the space for contract maint. seems we have turned down several other airlines who wanted work performed cause we didn't have the hanger space. The rumor last night was that SFO was losing a 767 B chk and we were making room for that to come here to the Delta hanger.My guess is that AA will spend millions upgradeing the hanger only to have it sit empty for a year or so, then turn it into a plush parking garage or corperate lounge for management when they fly out or through DFW.(no labor allowed).
<_< ----- That's "strange"! Because space is one thing we have plenty of here at MCI! People, no! Space, yes!---- Or is it that they may have other plans for that space?---- Oh! just curious! what are they doing with TWA's old hanger at LAX? If I remember correctly it was pretty good size! Maybe if they'd utilize what they already have, they wouldn't need to spend the money on new!
 
new coach galley = 4 more seats. Not done yet.


You're talking super 80, right? I thought they were putting that hellish reconfiguration on hold.

I flew domestic oct-dec last year and most of it on that reconfigured super 80. Was ready to either slit my wrists or quit.

How do they expect FAs to be in a good mood when there is literally nowhere for them to stand or sit that doesn't have smelly, hot people crowding them or stinky lav smell wafting around the whole area?
 
American Airlines Inc. plans to take over the vacant Delta Air Lines Inc. maintenance hangar at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport, airport officials said.

The Fort Worth-based carrier also said Tuesday that it has begun modifying the interiors of its MD-80 jets.

The narrow-body planes will get four more coach cabin seats, when galleys in the back of the aircraft are removed, said American spokesman Tim Smith.

The changes will bring the airplanes to 140 seats,

The project also includes adding larger overhead bins, Mr. Smith said.

Mr. Smith did not detail how much the carrier will spend on the upgrades.

He said American is spending about $500 million on improvements throughout its fleet over the next few years.

The MD-80 makes up nearly half of American's fleet. At an average age of 17, the MD-80s are among American's oldest planes.

The former Delta hangar will handle work on MD-80s and Boeing 777 wide-body airplanes.

American plans to add 80 jobs there.

story here
 
You're talking super 80, right? I thought they were putting that hellish reconfiguration on hold.

I flew domestic oct-dec last year and most of it on that reconfigured super 80. Was ready to either slit my wrists or quit.

How do they expect FAs to be in a good mood when there is literally nowhere for them to stand or sit that doesn't have smelly, hot people crowding them or stinky lav smell wafting around the whole area?

I don't understand. I fly the S80 almost exclusively (it's a bidsheet fluke that I am holding a 757 line for May with my seniority :lol: ). The only difference in "f/a seating" arrangements between the reconfigured a/c and the old config is that the #4 now has a seat out of the aisle on the former TW S80s. Perhaps you were flying a former TW a/c that had not yet been reconfigured--the one's that had the ironing board jumpseat in the aisle hanging off the side of the galley.

The major problems with the reconfigured S80s are
1. Only one coffee maker in coach galley (and this is really more of an inconvenience than a problem).
2. The promise that one cart would be kept free of catering items and would be exclusively designated as a trash cart is not being kept.
 
I don't understand. I fly the S80 almost exclusively (it's a bidsheet fluke that I am holding a 757 line for May with my seniority :lol: ). The only difference in "f/a seating" arrangements between the reconfigured a/c and the old config is that the #4 now has a seat out of the aisle on the former TW S80s. Perhaps you were flying a former TW a/c that had not yet been reconfigured--the one's that had the ironing board jumpseat in the aisle hanging off the side of the galley.

The major problems with the reconfigured S80s are
1. Only one coffee maker in coach galley (and this is really more of an inconvenience than a problem).
2. The promise that one cart would be kept free of catering items and would be exclusively designated as a trash cart is not being kept.

yes, I was flying a super 80 with an ironing board jumpseat. What is the new configuration with an out of the aisle jumpseat? What is an out of the aisle jumpseat? Huh? What? splain please.
 
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[quote name='Nor'Easta' post='481797' date='May 3 2007, 04:30 AM']I thought the Delta DFW Hangar had been spoken for by UPS???[/quote]


Read down to where it says that Airport Officials have been looking for a tenant since Delta pulled out!



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American eyes vacant Delta hangar at D/FW
By TREBOR BANSTETTER
STAR-TELEGRAM STAFF WRITER
Delta shut down the hangar in April 2005 after closing its hub at D/FW.
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Delta shut down the hangar in April 2005 after closing its hub at D/FW.

One of the last vestiges of the Delta Air Lines hub at Dallas/Fort Worth Airport is likely to soon vanish.

American Airlines has asked to take over the old Delta maintenance hangar at the airport, which has long sported that airline's name in giant letters visible to travelers driving north through the facility. The hangar has been vacant since April 2005, after Delta closed its D/FW hub and eliminated 92 percent of its local flights.

Initially, American plans to base 80 employees at the building and could eventually add up to 500 there, according to airport documents.

American, based in Fort Worth, has proposed renting the hangar for $3 million annually through 2009, with an option to extend the lease for an additional 15 years. The airline would also perform necessary repairs, which include reactivating a fire-suppression system and removing bird waste accumulated over the years.

The airport would reimburse American up to $900,000 for the repairs, according to airport documents.

Officials with American declined to comment on the proposed lease, which will be considered by the airport's board of directors next week. The lease would include the hangar, an adjacent ramp area, an employee parking lot and a utility plant and system.

The 180,000-square-foot hangar has three bays for wide-body airplanes and three spaces for narrow-body aircraft. The lease site covers about 46 acres.

Delta used the hangar for overnight maintenance. American would use the space to work on Boeing 777s, according to airport documents, and for a scheduled reconfiguration of its MD-80 cabins.

Airport officials have been trying to find a tenant for the hangar since Delta abandoned it.

American already has four maintenance hangars at the airport, which is its largest hub. It was unclear whether the new hangar would bring new work to D/FW or shift work from other sites at the airport.

The airline, the world's largest, has been expanding its maintenance operations in recent years by doing work for other airlines at facilities in Fort Worth, Tulsa and Kansas City.

Most other airlines, meanwhile, have increasingly been outsourcing aircraft maintenance, often to companies based overseas.

Shares of AMR Corp., American's parent company (ticker: AMR) closed at $26.35, down $1.34, in trading Friday.
Trebor Banstetter, 817-390-7064 tbanstetter@star-telegram
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