Abortion: Which Side Is Fabricating?

[Garfield1966]

Think about it, it doesn't work that way. I have one kid to replace me then when can my replacement have a kid? When I am gone? What if I live to be a hundred?

Would it not be like a row of objects. You are 1 then son 2 grand son 3, by the time 3 has 4, 1 is probably gone, and so forth.

Sure there will be minor fluctuation up and down but the population level should level out.

 

[Garfield1966]

Texas is the winner

AUSTIN – Texas, a leader in teen pregnancy and the state where more teens give birth to subsequent children than in any other, maintains one of the most restrictive policies in the nation for minors to obtain prescription birth control.

Just say no.

She cited the latest federal survey of teenagers' risky behavior, which showed that 53 percent of Texas high school students said in 2007 they'd had sexual intercourse.

Van de Putte said it's ironic that under existing law, a young mother calls the shots on her child's medical care but isn't trusted to do things to prevent a quick second pregnancy, which for teens carries high risk of a premature baby.

Texas is one of four states that doesn't let its Children's Health Insurance Program for low-income youngsters provide contraceptives. Though it spends $1.2 billion for Medicaid to cover 228,000 births each year, it doesn't automatically enroll those women in a 3-year-old offshoot of Medicaid that covers family planning services for a year at a time, as some states do. And minors aren't allowed in anyway.

 

[tech2101]

Texas is the winner
Just say no.

Quit it with those factual posts Garf. You are going to confuse us...

 

[Garfield1966]

Sorry, my bad.

Still, wasting over $1 billion dollars by not dispensing birth control and sex ed seems too stupid to pass up. I guess this is what happens when dogma supersedes logic.

 

[Freedom4all]

Sorry, my bad.

Still, wasting over $1 billion dollars by not dispensing birth control and sex ed seems too stupid to pass up. I guess this is what happens when dogma supersedes logic.

I find it senseless and ridiculous for those to speak for others regarding parenting and teen pregnancy, whilst never participating or having children of their own.

How's that saying go? Walking a mile in someone else's shoes? Or walk the walk and talk the talk?

 

[tech2101]

I find it senseless and ridiculous for those to speak for others regarding parenting and teen pregnancy, whilst never participating or having children of their own.

How's that saying go? Walking a mile in someone else's shoes? Or walk the walk and talk the talk?

So now you have to be a parent to know that you should not have had one? :blink:

 

[Freedom4all]

So now you have to be a parent to know that you should not have had one? :blink:

Let me say it in plain english....dont preach about parenting/teen pregnancy, if you have never had any kids or any experience parenting to speak of.

Clear enough for you?

 

[Garfield1966]

This has to do with kids having sex and contraception. I was a kid, had sex and used contraception. This has nothign to do with 'parenting' because if it did, we wold not have the problem in the first place.

If your 'logic' had any basis in reality then Reagan, Clinton, W Bush and Obama should never have been CIC sine they have no military experience (guarding IN does not count). Most of the hammer heads in government should not be in their positions since they also have no experience in their position. No priest should be giving out marital advise since they were never married.

It's a hollow argument. Aside from that, since my money is used to help pay for all the kids I have a say in it.

 

[Freedom4all]

This has to do with kids having sex and contraception. I was a kid, had sex and used contraception. This has nothign to do with 'parenting' because if it did, we wold not have the problem in the first place.

If your 'logic' had any basis in reality then Reagan, Clinton, W Bush and Obama should never have been CIC sine they have no military experience (guarding IN does not count). Most of the hammer heads in government should not be in their positions since they also have no experience in their position. No priest should be giving out marital advise since they were never married.

It's a hollow argument. Aside from that, since my money is used to help pay for all the kids I have a say in it.

What's hollow is to deflect with a side arguement that has nothing to do with the original argument. lol

 

[tech2101]

What's hollow is to deflect with a side arguement that has nothing to do with the original argument. lol

The original topic, which you posted, was on abortion funding.

Let me refresh your memory:

Despite what Obama said, the House bill would allow abortions to be covered by a federal plan and by federally subsidized private plans. Fact Check Source

 

[Freedom4all]

The original topic, which you posted, was on abortion funding.

Let me refresh your memory:

Maybe you should pay attention and less running off at the mouth perhaps?

I was referring to Garfs previous "Reagan, Clinton, W Bush and Obama should never have been CIC" deflection.

 

[Garfield1966]

You said that someone who does not have experience in certain things (in this case parenting) should not speak on the issue. What I said was very much in line with that. One does not need first hand experience in order to have an informed opinion on it. Very few have been to outer space and yet they design vehicles and train others to function there.

One does not need to have children in order to know that abstinence only does not work and that family planning and sex ed are crucial. The statistics in TX seem to point that out quite clearly.

 

[Freedom4all]

One does not need first hand experience in order to have an informed opinion on it.

Really? :blink: Maybe in your alternate world. Not in mine.

Very few have been to outer space and yet they design vehicles and train others to function there.

Um...yeah its called engineering and physics.

One does not need to have children in order to know that abstinence only does not work and that family planning and sex ed are crucial. The statistics in TX seem to point that out quite clearly.

Key word "family". Get it?

 

[Garfield1966]

Family planning, sex ed and abortion can fall under education, medicine and science .... get it?

 

[whatkindoffreshhell]

Premarital Sex, Abortion & Contraception ARE Public Health Issues.


Frankly the key to many of our social ills involve parents stepping up to the plate and taking responsibility and control over their children's lives and telling the government to go F'*k themselves.

So fragrant Robert, did you allow your kid to watch obamarama in school yesterday??

Or was that even an option?

(oh yeah, life begins at conception because it cannot begin at any other time...)