It is obvious that I have an opinion seeing that I am the one who started this thread.
Obviously.
And I dont believe I or anyone has made you read or respond to anything I have written.
Nope, you haven't. But you could at least change it up once in awhile.
lso, as far as quote "MY" blending or dovetailing ideas, these methods have been used more often than DOH has in referrence to inflight. I didnt just pull this idea out of my a**.
Ask the pilots that came over from Republic how well that sat with them.
Oh yeah you stated that I keep rehashing the same ideas over and over, well read the title to the thread.
I read the title. The problem is you keep repeating the same BS to anyone that rebuts your posts.
And as far as I can see you have not stated any facts about why DOH is more fair that using other historically fair methods.
It is the *only* equitable way. period. Yes, time served is time served (and I'm aware of the irony in repeating that, so no need to point it out).
If person A has 2000, and person B has 2001, person A is senior. End of story. Wether or not they happened to hire on in a big spree is irrelevant to this discussion. Each employee chose to seek work at their respective carrier.
Here's one for you: I started at one of the smallest/most senior (at the the time) cities in NW's system. It took me 18 mos. to finally get on. Should I have those 18 months added to my seniority?
The only defense I have heard so far on DOH is that "we are all one company now (which we are not yet)
Not from this cat. I usually preface everything with "if this comes to pass" or something similar.
In my humble opinion that is a very simple minded way to handle the issue and one that does not take into account things like ratios, size of labor groups, what each brings to the table as far as % of desirable routes (meaning positions that we can bid on not what is already outsourced by foreign nationals fly).
It's beautiful in it's simplicity. It evens everything out regardless of who came from where. And while we're at it, do you really think overnight you're going to get stuck doing CID layovers (or whatever the DL equivalent is)?
I think it is fair that we all should expect to move down in our seniority but no one seniority group should shoulder more pain than any other. We should all be able to hold what we currently hold within reason.
Exactly! What do you think DOH is going to do? No one loses a single day that they didn't already have.
As for F/A specifics, see my above comment. It is highly alarmist to think there will be a mass exodus out of MSP for ATL or JFK (or vice versa).
Maybe you'd like to see some fencing of bases to protect what you hold so dear? Well, guess what? That will only come from an AFA negotiation.
I dont know how much clearer I can be and I dont know why some think that it is like unpatriotic not to automatically except DOH without question.
Unpatriotic? Been watching Fox news, have we? No, it's not unpatriotic, but your plan is self serving. Don't try and claim it's anything else (or wrap it in a flag).
I'm not sure how much clearer *I* can be.
Who is trying to get who to drink the Koolaide? I think for myself not what others tell me to think and that includes Delta and AFA.
Good for you, peaches. However, part of being able to think for yourself means broadening your horizons by listening to ideas/information that may be foreign to you in order to make an educated decision.