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Just for a little perspective, the APFA got another raise of 1.6% with back pay to sept 1. They won this from an arbitrator. It's easy to see that both the Association and AA want to get a deal done in a timely manner, after all they already rescheduled for negotiations to start up 4 weeks from now.
FA's have gotten contract improvements, and pay raises going back 2 years now.
18% (I think) pay raise with new contract (contract improvements) not concessionary
4% (not in contract) because Delta gave their employees a raise
6% (not in contract) because UAL was taking to long with their FAs so AA acted, for the AA FAs
3% contractual raise (i believe)
1.6% with back pay because of an arbitrator decision.
Not for nothing the Pilots, FA's, and agents all decided quickly which union would represent them. Get this, they even voted on it.
Mechs,
was it a 21% raise? but we gave a concession to get that raise. (we didn't vote on that concession)
and NO NEW contract. 2 years after the pilots, FAs, and agents all have new contracts.
please correct my numbers if wrong, I did them off the top of my head.
FA's have gotten contract improvements, and pay raises going back 2 years now.
18% (I think) pay raise with new contract (contract improvements) not concessionary
4% (not in contract) because Delta gave their employees a raise
6% (not in contract) because UAL was taking to long with their FAs so AA acted, for the AA FAs
3% contractual raise (i believe)
1.6% with back pay because of an arbitrator decision.
Not for nothing the Pilots, FA's, and agents all decided quickly which union would represent them. Get this, they even voted on it.
Mechs,
was it a 21% raise? but we gave a concession to get that raise. (we didn't vote on that concession)
and NO NEW contract. 2 years after the pilots, FAs, and agents all have new contracts.
please correct my numbers if wrong, I did them off the top of my head.
Come on, really? Are you surprised?
Lombardo let Peterson back in and next thing you know the NMB is invited. There is more to the story than we are being told.
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Getting the NMB involved will not increase or speed up nego's, at least it hasn't at all with ours. Our mediators won't even step in and ask the co. for a little movement, nothing. Seems to us that the stall tactics the company has been doing just seems to continue even with mediators involved, now, it's just that a third party now gets paid to sit there an observe, pathetic I tell ya.
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I remember when we were doing maintenance for another company at TULE. I can't remember if it was Omni or Allegiant or whatever (it was a long time ago). I remember our crew chief (a grade a a$$ kisser) suggesting to management we could clean the customers aircraft as a bonus (even though they only paid for mechanic maintenance). This was after Sept 11th when they were pushing that shared sacrifice crap. You would think a company claiming to be in dire financial straights and asking employees for concessions would not be giving away free labor.
Where was the UNION in all of this?
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I remember that LaLi. It wasn't the union that said no to that. The company said not to do it because they wanted to get paid for every single thing.
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I wish that were so OldGuy@AA. In fact the company DID have us clean those aircraft for free.
Since the AMT topic on negotiations was closed I decided to post this here.
Our negotiators better think about what they are going to do for us with the 401K if the government gets their way. A straight up contribution is the best way if we lose the individual tax break. If we pull back or stop the contribution then the company match might be sacrificed. Cost savings for the company and a financial loss for the individual towards retirement. Don't even think about the IAMPF. No guarantee it will be there for you or stay solvent long enough by the time you reach retirement. It the government gets their way we are so screwed.
https://www.fool.com/retirement/201...-to-take-away-your-401ks-bigg.aspx?yptr=yahoo
Union pensions are not looking good for the near future. I posted this on another topic.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-congress-bail-miners-pensions-155500418.html
Our negotiators better think about what they are going to do for us with the 401K if the government gets their way. A straight up contribution is the best way if we lose the individual tax break. If we pull back or stop the contribution then the company match might be sacrificed. Cost savings for the company and a financial loss for the individual towards retirement. Don't even think about the IAMPF. No guarantee it will be there for you or stay solvent long enough by the time you reach retirement. It the government gets their way we are so screwed.
https://www.fool.com/retirement/201...-to-take-away-your-401ks-bigg.aspx?yptr=yahoo
Union pensions are not looking good for the near future. I posted this on another topic.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-congress-bail-miners-pensions-155500418.html
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From the last crew news in DFW with Doug it sounded like a FA was up set because the arbitrator sided with the company and did not give the 1.6% increase all the way back to when Doug gave them the 6% increase in April 2016, it was given back to when UAL FA's actually received their contract around August 2016.
