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Some people call it REALITY.
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Some people call it REALITY.
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Adam Levine you’re not going to find any DAL investors here man. Best keep writing your daily blogs on Yahoo and hope.
Rusty Im 59 years old how many more summers do I have?I mean really should i live the rest of my life worrying about it?Thats pretty much what you are doing.The airline is probably in better shape than ever,your job has probably never been more secure
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May 24, 2018
Tech Ops and Fleet Service Colleagues,
In July 2017, we provided our initial comprehensive proposal to the TWU-IAM Association. On March 21, 2018, we enhanced that proposal to offer the highest pay rates and premiums in the industry, increased paid time off, an industry-leading 401(k) plan and competitive medical plans consistent with the industry. All while keeping more maintenance and fleet service jobs in-house than any other airline.
Since passing the enhanced comprehensive proposal in March, the company has had several opportunities in town halls and other forums to hear team members’ concerns about some parts of the proposal. We’ve also heard one overarching ask: get back to the table and get a deal signed.
In an effort to address those concerns, this week we proactively proposed adjustments to our March comprehensive to the Association. These changes are intended to further increase wages, guarantee we continue to insource more maintenance and fleet service work than anyone else in the industry, and ensure that everyone who has a job today will continue to have a job at their station in their basic classification.
The changes proposed include:
· Higher wages – The company has increased its proposed base pay wages, honoring our commitment that team members will be paid as well as or better than their peers at other airlines as contracts are signed. Since the comprehensive proposal was presented in March, Delta has announced base pay increases scheduled for October 2018. Therefore, we have proposed increases so that American’s team members would be higher than Delta’s new October 2018 rates by 3%.
· Station protection systemwide – Job protection is key and we have also adjusted the comprehensive proposal so that no one will have to move as a result of the new agreement. If you have a job in your station today, you’ll have a job in your station tomorrow.
· Deicing work done by American team members – In our adjusted comprehensive, we have proposed continuing to deice mainline aircraft in cold weather stations (BOS, DCA, JFK, LGA and ORD) given the frequency of work these stations see each winter.
· Elimination of the 1:1 headcount reduction associated with the Early Out – Previously the company proposed that American would employ at least 3,500 base mechanic and related team members. That number could then be lowered on a 1-for-1 basis depending on how many people took the Early Out. For example, if 2,000 team members were awarded the Early Out, the new floor would be 1,500 (3,500 – 2,000). That was a concern for many.
In the adjusted comprehensive, we removed the 1:1 reduction as well as the 3,500 threshold. Instead, we commit that no less than 50% of all aircraft overhaul work done for the airline will be performed by TWU-IAM team members. Any Early Out offered would not impact our commitment to have industry-leading scope that continues to insource more work than our peers.
· Continue to do all engine and APU work currently performed in-house – The March comprehensive committed that all JT8D-200, CF6-80C2, CFM56-7B, CFM56-5B and 131-9B engine and APU work would be done by TWU-IAM mechanics. In the adjusted comprehensive, the company has added two more APUs – 331-500 and 36-280D/DHF – to the list of engine and APU work we guarantee will be done by TWU-IAM.
· Protect more component jobs – In March we proposed that maintaining component work was at the company’s discretion. The headcount floor would have inherently protected some component work, but this was ambiguous. In the adjusted comprehensive, the company commits that team members dedicated to components will equal at least 20% of the maintenance headcount dedicated to aircraft overhaul. In other words, for every 100 mechanic and related team members we have working aircraft overhaul and modifications, we will have at least 20 more mechanic and related team members working on components.
Tech Ops and Fleet Service Colleagues,
In July 2017, we provided our initial comprehensive proposal to the TWU-IAM Association. On March 21, 2018, we enhanced that proposal to offer the highest pay rates and premiums in the industry, increased paid time off, an industry-leading 401(k) plan and competitive medical plans consistent with the industry. All while keeping more maintenance and fleet service jobs in-house than any other airline.
Since passing the enhanced comprehensive proposal in March, the company has had several opportunities in town halls and other forums to hear team members’ concerns about some parts of the proposal. We’ve also heard one overarching ask: get back to the table and get a deal signed.
In an effort to address those concerns, this week we proactively proposed adjustments to our March comprehensive to the Association. These changes are intended to further increase wages, guarantee we continue to insource more maintenance and fleet service work than anyone else in the industry, and ensure that everyone who has a job today will continue to have a job at their station in their basic classification.
The changes proposed include:
· Higher wages – The company has increased its proposed base pay wages, honoring our commitment that team members will be paid as well as or better than their peers at other airlines as contracts are signed. Since the comprehensive proposal was presented in March, Delta has announced base pay increases scheduled for October 2018. Therefore, we have proposed increases so that American’s team members would be higher than Delta’s new October 2018 rates by 3%.
· Station protection systemwide – Job protection is key and we have also adjusted the comprehensive proposal so that no one will have to move as a result of the new agreement. If you have a job in your station today, you’ll have a job in your station tomorrow.
· Deicing work done by American team members – In our adjusted comprehensive, we have proposed continuing to deice mainline aircraft in cold weather stations (BOS, DCA, JFK, LGA and ORD) given the frequency of work these stations see each winter.
· Elimination of the 1:1 headcount reduction associated with the Early Out – Previously the company proposed that American would employ at least 3,500 base mechanic and related team members. That number could then be lowered on a 1-for-1 basis depending on how many people took the Early Out. For example, if 2,000 team members were awarded the Early Out, the new floor would be 1,500 (3,500 – 2,000). That was a concern for many.
In the adjusted comprehensive, we removed the 1:1 reduction as well as the 3,500 threshold. Instead, we commit that no less than 50% of all aircraft overhaul work done for the airline will be performed by TWU-IAM team members. Any Early Out offered would not impact our commitment to have industry-leading scope that continues to insource more work than our peers.
· Continue to do all engine and APU work currently performed in-house – The March comprehensive committed that all JT8D-200, CF6-80C2, CFM56-7B, CFM56-5B and 131-9B engine and APU work would be done by TWU-IAM mechanics. In the adjusted comprehensive, the company has added two more APUs – 331-500 and 36-280D/DHF – to the list of engine and APU work we guarantee will be done by TWU-IAM.
· Protect more component jobs – In March we proposed that maintaining component work was at the company’s discretion. The headcount floor would have inherently protected some component work, but this was ambiguous. In the adjusted comprehensive, the company commits that team members dedicated to components will equal at least 20% of the maintenance headcount dedicated to aircraft overhaul. In other words, for every 100 mechanic and related team members we have working aircraft overhaul and modifications, we will have at least 20 more mechanic and related team members working on components.
Im not looking at it Ive decided to do what ever Bob does
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As expected, the airline just put out another update to their comprehensive positions, it seemed to address some of the components that seemed to be a sore spot for TWU Members.
As we thought and shared on these pages, the airline enhanced the pay to the new DL rates plus 3%, they protected the deicing in the larger stations that currently do the work and other points that touch other work groups.
This has been their plan and hopefully, it means our side saw this coming like we did and are in the process of maximizing the value if this becomes a last offer.
As we thought and shared on these pages, the airline enhanced the pay to the new DL rates plus 3%, they protected the deicing in the larger stations that currently do the work and other points that touch other work groups.
This has been their plan and hopefully, it means our side saw this coming like we did and are in the process of maximizing the value if this becomes a last offer.
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There you go, as expected.
What is the dollar figure?
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Ok but don’t you also see how they’re trying to pit us against each other?
I didn’t read Catering taken back off the table?
No changes to the Medical ask?
No change to the IAMPF ask?
Obviously we need to also monitor that PT language and is “When and where so directed” still in any ask?
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It seems at face value to lean disproportionately towards the TWU side?
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Devil is in the details.
The thing is there may be limited choices as to what to do next.
Hopefully, others saw this coming and adjusted their position to maximize the value of the proposal.
For all the "doom and gloom" accusations when this was brought up as a probable course for the airline, it would have been nice to have had the conversation months ago rather than just dismiss it. If both sides understood each others positions better then maybe we could stand closer together rather than pointing fingers at each other.
Weez catering to the majority forcing a. Vote.Contract passed pretty simple not exactly brilliantly played we all saw it coming
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