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If you go to Jetnet and read what the Company has to say they also provide links to their proposals.
One of those proposal tabs regards SCOPE (Our work) They posted today’s date and NEW to that tab.
There is “””NOTHING”””” NEW in that opening.
For Fleet they still show wanting all of Catering and only leaving the same Stations in regards to Deicing.
They also mention something about regaining work in the 40 cities but don’t say “what” work and mention nothing about restaffing other cities.
The position and proposals the Company laid out Months ago are still the same. No changes.
One of those proposal tabs regards SCOPE (Our work) They posted today’s date and NEW to that tab.
There is “””NOTHING”””” NEW in that opening.
For Fleet they still show wanting all of Catering and only leaving the same Stations in regards to Deicing.
They also mention something about regaining work in the 40 cities but don’t say “what” work and mention nothing about restaffing other cities.
The position and proposals the Company laid out Months ago are still the same. No changes.
Tim Nelson
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Fairbanks said the association agreed to waive off our pay raise that was scheduled for today when Sito unilaterally agreed to the cross utilization. We have morons on our team. How long will the madness go?
BTW, did you see whose names were on the letter from the company? Guess Weezles boy Gary Peterson was wrong again. He needs a new tin cap or needs to stop listening to the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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Tim .If u were the negotiating contract how would u go about it in a week or less?
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Section 6 Openers for all Association Agreements
Today, September 12, 2018, American Airlines delivered Section 6 notices for all open TWU-IAM Association collective bargaining agreements. Simply stated, a Section 6 notice officially opens contracts under the Railway Labor Act. The TWU-IAM Association welcomes this gesture by the Company as a sign they will now get serious about reaching the Joint Collective Bargaining Agreements our members deserve.
Included in the Company’s communication to the Association is a notice of their intent to file for mediation with the National Mediation Board (NMB). This move is also welcomed by the Association. The NMB has previously been involved in these negotiations with the attendance of a Board member serving as the mediator. The Association looks forward to a Board member returning to our negotiating table.
We truly hope this is a sign that the Company will get serious in addressing the necessary wage, scope, retirement and healthcare issues it will take to reach agreement. It is high-time the Company stop its concessionary demands and recognizes the sacrifices our members have made to allow American Airlines and US Airways to merge and create the largest airline in the world. Our position of achieving the protections, pay and benefits our members deserve will not be hindered by this process, it will be amplified by it.
The involvement of the NMB in our negotiations does not mean a third party has the right or the ability to impose terms of any kind nor can it make decisions on our contracts or force decisions upon us, it merely introduces a facililitator into the process. It also does another thing: it begins the formal Railway Labor Act process that can eventually lead to cooling-off periods and eventually self-help. If American Airlines refuses to respect our membership and fails to reach satisfactory settlements, the TWU-IAM Association will exercise every option under the Railway Labor Act up to and including self-help. For that reason, the Association will begin assembling strike committees in all American Airlines represented locations.
Fraternally,
Alex Garcia
TWU International Executive Vice President
TWU/IAM Association Director
Sito Pantoja
IAM General Vice President
TWU/IAM Association Vice Director
Today, September 12, 2018, American Airlines delivered Section 6 notices for all open TWU-IAM Association collective bargaining agreements. Simply stated, a Section 6 notice officially opens contracts under the Railway Labor Act. The TWU-IAM Association welcomes this gesture by the Company as a sign they will now get serious about reaching the Joint Collective Bargaining Agreements our members deserve.
Included in the Company’s communication to the Association is a notice of their intent to file for mediation with the National Mediation Board (NMB). This move is also welcomed by the Association. The NMB has previously been involved in these negotiations with the attendance of a Board member serving as the mediator. The Association looks forward to a Board member returning to our negotiating table.
We truly hope this is a sign that the Company will get serious in addressing the necessary wage, scope, retirement and healthcare issues it will take to reach agreement. It is high-time the Company stop its concessionary demands and recognizes the sacrifices our members have made to allow American Airlines and US Airways to merge and create the largest airline in the world. Our position of achieving the protections, pay and benefits our members deserve will not be hindered by this process, it will be amplified by it.
The involvement of the NMB in our negotiations does not mean a third party has the right or the ability to impose terms of any kind nor can it make decisions on our contracts or force decisions upon us, it merely introduces a facililitator into the process. It also does another thing: it begins the formal Railway Labor Act process that can eventually lead to cooling-off periods and eventually self-help. If American Airlines refuses to respect our membership and fails to reach satisfactory settlements, the TWU-IAM Association will exercise every option under the Railway Labor Act up to and including self-help. For that reason, the Association will begin assembling strike committees in all American Airlines represented locations.
Fraternally,
Alex Garcia
TWU International Executive Vice President
TWU/IAM Association Director
Sito Pantoja
IAM General Vice President
TWU/IAM Association Vice Director
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We did not have a raise in the LUS agreement for sept 2018......we had a 2.1% pay increase provided for in the 2014 agreement for sept 2017 IF THERE WAS NO JCBA...
So we got the 2017 raise and the NEW amendable date is sept 2018
It's going to be a while longer. Even with a mediator officially assigned to our negotiations. I would guess there will be three mediators one for each group unless they negotiate one group at a time. Should be interesting how the union and company will approach the negotiations since we are into our amendable time frame.
Tim Nelson
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More BS. There will be no strike. Period. Ever. Do you want me to share with you Sito's letter that he told everyone at United? He said, it is extremely unlikely that United will ever be allowed to strike because it was much larger. Guess who is larger than United?
Bullchit......See this is what I mean totally insulting our intelligence this is what pisses me off ....
Self help ....horsechit and bullchit
Tim Nelson
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Put the members first. Cut out the unions interest in the dues and pension. I believe I could do it in 15 minutes. And then allow the members to vote on it. The scope isn't the issue, even the union was pleased. All 40 stations, even lavs and catering. The company pulled that offer when Sito insisted on 'line iteming' scope. The company wasn't going to line item scope, it wanted normal negotiations and wanted scope included with the pension/health. No matter, the health isn't going to be pretty, we won't be keeping it. NYer was right. After we gave up cross utilization, we lost all leverage.
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This sums it all up. Yes, it is a new lie. Same thing they did at United, but then a funny thing happened. They put out the letter below. The offer that the IAM had prior to TA1 and prior to TA2 was much better. They could have did the stand alone then proceeded but they chased dues. In any case, Weezles and Alex can't argue with Sito's own attorney who is an expert on the RLA. Here is what he said.
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I know what the exit plan is accept the current or even worse offer 3 years down the road.Thats the exit plan
Tim Nelson
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That's it. Weezles don't care since his agenda is his own wallet and FLL. Same with 700. It's all about this IAM Pension. I've asked weezles 10 times now what the exit plan is and he claims strike. I just proved he is a liar and his boy sito. They put out the fresh lie today that they are making strike preparations. Same thing they said at United. 4 years later, after Sito nabbed his board seat finally, he puts out the "Drop Dead" letter above and says if you don't ratify the next one will be worse.
You see, Al, I'm the Charlie Brown and Weezle watchdog. I hammer them when they lie and when they purposely don't put out the truth. Anyone in CLT? Please copy this letter and also copy Charlie Borwn's Sito letter and toss both letters on the table and ask Charlie to tell you with a straight face that you will be allowed to strike. I told you he lies, and he has 150,000 reasons to.
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