American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[CremaDiLimone]

Hey Tim, is the deicng company in Ord, an outsource company, or an airport company?

ord does it's own deicing. just put out c/c bid today..14 FT c/c spots for deicing.

lavs? currently 18 FT fscs do lavs here.

 

[Racer X]

The bag fee money would pay for all of us to go on the us air insurance . I see the company raised us air cost also for the 90 and 100 plan. So do they not have a cap on us air insurance

LUS has language that caps the increase on the medical at certain percentages.
I believe the 80/20 plan can’t be more than 7% of the cost to the member
The 90/10 is capped at 14%
The 100 is capped at 19%
For example: if Medical was $1,000 cost
On 100 plan Comp pays $810
Member pays $190
On 90/10: Comp pays $860
Member pays $140
On 80/20. Comp pays $930
Emp pays $70
If cost goes up for company the member pays the same percentage of the new cost
Example: Medical is $2,000
100 plan would be comp $1620
Member $380
90/10. Comp pays $1720
Member pays $280
80/20. Comp pays $1860
Member pays $140

 

[WeAAsles]

BTW the Medical Plan changes are now up on Jetnet for the 2019 enrollment period.

People may want to notice the difference in prices between the LAA plans and the IAM plans.

And the Company does mention in their explanation of why the price increases how they are “Self Insured” and are passing the National rise in costs onto us by just matching that average essentially Ad Hoc. (Read their explanation for yourself)

 

[Buck]

LUS has language that caps the increase on the medical at certain percentages.
I believe the 80/20 plan can’t be more than 7% of the cost to the member
The 90/10 is capped at 14%
The 100 is capped at 19%
For example: if Medical was $1,000 cost
On 100 plan Comp pays $810
Member pays $190
On 90/10: Comp pays $860
Member pays $140
On 80/20. Comp pays $930
Emp pays $70
If cost goes up for company the member pays the same percentage of the new cost
Example: Medical is $2,000
100 plan would be comp $1620
Member $380
90/10. Comp pays $1720
Member pays $280
80/20. Comp pays $1860
Member pays $140

Out of curiosity, I want to ask a question or make a statement concerning the LUS insurance.

The insurance was settled at it's contractual levels to get the contract sold. Comments?

 

[WeAAsles]

Out of curiosity, I want to ask a question or make a statement concerning the LUS insurance.

The insurance was settled at it's contractual levels to get the contract sold. Comments?

The IAM insurance rates came about in Bankruptcy. When the Company as part of concessions wanted to raise their Medical rates paid by the Employees the IAM went out of the Company arm to seek out a better alternative for Group plans and found them.

The Company essentially just matched the price the IAM had come up with had the employees struck out on their own.

These plans “may” have been born from Multi Employer Medical Plans that the IAM is a part of in other industries?

This is how I understood what was told to me?

 

[WeAAsles]

And I also wish people would stop fighting “FOR” the Company on this Medical issue already.

I just saw the Pilot Roadshow on Jetnet and how the Company rep just stated nonchalantly how they’re just going to transition the IAM side over to the LAA Medical as if they have no choice.

Their arrogance should only embolden us more to resist that comment.

 

[AANOTOK]

Well you have to remember that one particular poster here on Forums is the one who got everyone riled up and focused on that Medical advantage they currently have.

The Medical was an economic issue that I doubt was actually discussed much for quite a while into the Negotiations.



There are a lot more N American Airlines out there than just AA, UAL and Delta. But we only want to compare ourselves to the Major Leagues rather than those playing in the Minors.

Let you in on something here Metal since we’re going into Mediation anyway.

“For ME:” I’m fine with the economic package the Company offered actually.

“For ME:” 3% above December UAL is fine as long as the out years have a few 2.5% raises in there and no 1 or 1.5%, I don’t care if someone leaps ahead of me eventually.

“For ME:” I’m fine with the Medical costs I’m paying right now. But I would like a cap on those costs for the life of the Contract.

“For ME:” The 401k offer would be just fine. Although I think it should be tiered by age with over 50 getting the highest percentage.

But that’s just the Economics without any fine print or talk about Scope. And I’m not going to push out Negotiators just because there’s something out there that “I’d” be fine with.

Hypocrite...others who say they are fine with AA's offer, especially Medical are IGM people. Or want LUS to be stuck with AA medical. Or are fighters for AA and their medical. You hammer people who say just what you posted.

 

[AANOTOK]

Why can’t you ever be nice to people?

Hypocrite...you are probably the top condescending, smart a** on this site and you complain about others.

 

[WeAAsles]

Hypocrite...others who say they are fine with AA's offer, especially Medical are IGM people. Or want LUS to be stuck with AA medical. Or are fighters for AA and their medical. You hammer people who say just what you posted.

First the poster I was talking about was Nelson and not you. I’m sorry but you’re not that huge a focus for me here quite honestly.

And just because I speak for what “I” would be ok with doesn’t mean I lose my empathy for how others think. You just don’t “seem” to have that empathy for those on the IAM side of the fence?

Hypocrite...you are probably the top condescending, smart a** on this site and you complain about others.

That was a pure joke that flew right over your head. I even chuckled out loud when I wrote it.

You haven’t been exposed much to NYers have you?

 

[AANOTOK]

Didn't think it was about me at all, just found it to be extremely hypocritical...shocker.
And no, I'm sure I don't take up much of your radar, you have much stronger obsessions in Tim and 700UW.
Carry on, I'll return to the shadows...

 

[conehead777]

LUS has language that caps the increase on the medical at certain percentages.
I believe the 80/20 plan can’t be more than 7% of the cost to the member
The 90/10 is capped at 14%
The 100 is capped at 19%
For example: if Medical was $1,000 cost
On 100 plan Comp pays $810
Member pays $190
On 90/10: Comp pays $860
Member pays $140
On 80/20. Comp pays $930
Emp pays $70
If cost goes up for company the member pays the same percentage of the new cost
Example: Medical is $2,000
100 plan would be comp $1620
Member $380
90/10. Comp pays $1720
Member pays $280
80/20. Comp pays $1860
Member pays $140

Thanks for the info

 

[WeAAsles]

Didn't think it was about me at all, just found it to be extremely hypocritical...shocker.
And no, I'm sure I don't take up much of your radar, you have much stronger obsessions in Tim and 700UW.
Carry on, I'll return to the shadows...

Uh, ok.

 

[ALUS78]

Hey Rat, it's the fault of all those crooked, greedy, union bosses flying around in A380's, adorned with solid gold bathroom fixtures, and upper decks converted to strip clubs...

Ask the Nelsonians...

iam did have their own private jet wasn't even built in US.

 

[ALUS78]

And I also wish people would stop fighting “FOR” the Company on this Medical issue already.

I just saw the Pilot Roadshow on Jetnet and how the Company rep just stated nonchalantly how they’re just going to transition the IAM side over to the LAA Medical as if they have no choice.

Their arrogance should only embolden us more to resist that comment.

First timeI Isom mentioned that LAA had more people doing the same work as LUS first time.

 

[MetalMover]

First timeI Isom mentioned that LAA had more people doing the same work as LUS first time.

Nothing to do with a larger fleet, of course.