American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[Racer X]

It’s a test.

You throw out some basics along with the items that the Company knows the Unions aren’t going to accept in their current form and then the Company reads the tea leaves as they float around the cup before they make the modified real offers.

That’s why they didn’t even bother to write it all out.

And our members are playing right into their hands and they either don’t know it or they don’t care. Either way it is really scary for those of us that do care.

 

[WeAAsles]

Its a 12 year top out..

It’s 9 years for Mechanics Bob.

 

[WeAAsles]

And our members are playing right into their hands and they either don’t know it or they don’t care. Either way it is really scary for those of us that do care.

I wouldn’t let the max dozen or so posters on here get you too concerned. Those voices have been pretty much static in their opposition of anything Union associated anyway and the Company opinion counters that read here I highly doubt give them much notice any more.

They’re looking for people they’ve never heard from before or people they’ve been able to convince over to their sides of thought.

Keep an eye on the Facebook Group pages and the Jetnet/ Workbrain comments sections and you’ll see that so far the majority is not agreeing with the Company’s positions.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Have to ask why a banker an anti union hater is consistently on here continuously bashing the union and keeps throwing in the sito thing etc. Whats ur agenda? Are u part of dp crooked mgmt group

Well if you direct your question to someone specific, maybe you'll get answer.

 

[Racer X]

I wouldn’t let the max dozen or so posters on here get you too concerned. Those voices have been pretty much static in their opposition of pretty much anything Union associated anyway and the Company opinion counters that read here I highly doubt give them much notice any more.

They’re looking for people they’ve never heard from before or people they’ve been able to convince over to their sides of thought.

Keep an eye on the Facebook Group pages and the Jetnet/ Workbrain comments sections and you’ll see that so far the majority is not agreeing with the Company’s positions.

Thanks

 

[robbedagain]

no need to bob most posters here know who the banker anti union is

 

[B737 driver]

It’s 9 years for Mechanics Bob.

At SWA it is 6 years. If this new agreement is ratified maint controllers with 6 years, immediately go to 64 a hour, wonder how they will vote?

 

[WeAAsles]

Well if you direct your question to someone specific, maybe you'll get answer.

Did you know Bob that up until the Bankruptcy DFW had a cap on Part Timers of only 150. That percentage was lifted in the BK and I remember that you posted the current actual numbers a few weeks back.

Now I’ve heard that in that offer from the Company they supposedly want the ability to go up to 40% PT Systemwide and/or in Stations?

We’re already pretty large on those PT numbers where I work but I wonder particularly what DFW would look like if the numbers were a 60/40 mix?

 

[Kev3188]

Now I’ve heard that in that offer from the Company they supposedly want the ability to go up to 40% PT Systemwide and/or in Stations?

A blanket system-wide number could easily mean a line station being all/almost all PT. In the hubs it could mean popular early AM or closing shifts moved to all Pt with FT lines being all mid shifts. Yikes.

 

[WeAAsles]

A blanket system-wide number could easily mean a line station being all/almost all PT. In the hubs it could mean popular early AM or closing shifts moved to all Pt with FT lines being all mid shifts. Yikes.

I heard that possibly one of the bad things in that last UAL deal was that the Company was given a higher PT Cap or a greater ability to shift FT Members down to PT?

Even if the Company does get enough takers on any offered buyouts raising any PT cap could cause some serious stagnation if we also lost Catering, Deicing, Lavs and Water work with no regenerated work elsewhere?

Serious potential for downgrading with no guaranteed Station and Status Employment protection.

 

[WeAAsles]

Oil prices look set to temporarily hit $90 a barrel during the first half of next year, if not sooner, and risk spiking to as much as $100 a barrel, depending on geopolitical events and other factors, say Bank of America Merrill Lynch analysts.

But they do not see an immediate major jump in prices. For this year, they forecast an average price of $70 a barrel for Brent crude, the international benchmark. They forecast $75 for next year. Their previous forecast was $60.

Prices could climb significantly next year, however. The analysts have a target of $90 a barrel during the second quarter of 2019, with a risk it could go to $100 a barrel. Futures on Brent were trading as high as $78 Thursday.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...0-next-year-bank-of-america-analysts-say.html

 

[WeAAsles]

January 27, 2015.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

The company wants to take LUS insurance and give us LAA insurance, that's a cut.

i've seen the $39 million per year figure...the cost for aa to put all assoc. members on lus insurance?

how much money would aa be adding into their pockets through synthetic income of upping lus members' insurance premiums?

that's not organic income...income generated from the business degrees and subsequent business acumen and genius of parker or isom or johnsen. aa stays the same and lus pay more?

money going to the shareholders? money going up the ladder, not down?

 

[CremaDiLimone]

Did you know Bob that up until the Bankruptcy DFW had a cap on Part Timers of only 150. That percentage was lifted in the BK and I remember that you posted the current actual numbers a few weeks back.

Now I’ve heard that in that offer from the Company they supposedly want the ability to go up to 40% PT Systemwide and/or in Stations?

We’re already pretty large on those PT numbers where I work but I wonder particularly what DFW would look like if the numbers were a 60/40 mix?

And don’t care to make overtime for the exception of that juicy holiday offer.

are the holidays just as juicy as a PTer? juicy, but smaller morsels.

still not sure how bob will work every single holiday and get paid 2 or 2 1/2 times each holiday? which holiday is pac-man day? can he play parker to keep lavs?

 

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Did you know Bob that up until the Bankruptcy DFW had a cap on Part Timers of only 150. That percentage was lifted in the BK and I remember that you posted the current actual numbers a few weeks back.

Now I’ve heard that in that offer from the Company they supposedly want the ability to go up to 40% PT Systemwide and/or in Stations?

We’re already pretty large on those PT numbers where I work but I wonder particularly what DFW would look like if the numbers were a 60/40 mix?

The cap at DFW was 200 till BK...that cap was never reached at DFW, usually hovered between 165-180...actually the counter offer by the union is 40%, but 40% of the FT heads...the company wants 40% of the total fleet head count including both FT and PT...big difference...