FurloughedByAPFA
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I fully realize that It's easy for me to be sitting here(retired), and make this following statement(though I too could lose my defind benefit retiree pension), but you know what......................."Enough is Enough with these bastards at HDQ" !!
Instead of CONSTANTLY living under the threat of AA threatening to Bankrupt/Outsource/merge/acquire/(Don't) merge/(Don't) acquire....I say "FUUK EM' ", lets get this "shootout at the OK corral" over with, Once and For all !!!!!!!!!!!!
Similiarly, like NW, after the "dust settles"....then for those that survive, go after them, and regain as much $$$ as possible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Speaking of NW, I don't think anyone has not been recalled,...and..look at what the pilots were able to do to those BAS-TARDS by way of "timing out", and NOT working overtime !!
This CRAP has got to end..."once and for all" with AA, and weak unions like TWU/APFA !!!!
So unless AA is planning to "close the doors" once and for all, I suggest that you guys EMPHATICALLY tell them..........."Bring it on SUCKER"..............."Bring it on" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
True... They are starting to play their games..... here we go again !!! My advise .... dont read it and ditch it in the trash ...The headline of this article is a bit misleading. When I first saw it I thought the company had made a new declaration. The article is really nothing new. Just a rehash of recent events. It's gonna be a long haul!
NHBB, You honestly didn't think this would be a cake walk did you? Everyone knows that AMR has the highest costs, It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what they will do next. I am guessing they will threaten BK again to axe the pension. If you take 3 contracts up for negotiations at the same time, and the fact that, if their labor costs as a whole rise around 25-30% they will be posting losses again, it doesn't paint for a rosy negotiation on anyones part. Also, it doesn't help that oil keeps going up and staying that way. The most unfortunate thing is the fact that, while execs reap the bonuses the employess lose ALOT - the lifestyle of alot of people has had to change (think, no more lake house) . Trust, most airline workers are all tooooo used to this. So, the fact that the unions gave the concessions to keep AMR out of BK, they kept the largest negotiating tool in place.. THE PENSION.. Many, people will buckle and take a concession to keep that pension, and they know this - so get ready it is going to get ugly... If you took an approxy across the scale then you would assume if AMR gave workers at 3 unions a 5% pay increase and some work rules back, they will be skating on thin ice, There are two ways this can play out, as the article says, BUH BYE Eagle and other assets, or BUH BYE pension.
It's a good think the execs got theirs before things really get bad.
NHBB, You honestly didn't think this would be a cake walk did you? Everyone knows that AMR has the highest costs, It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what they will do next. I am guessing they will threaten BK again to axe the pension. If you take 3 contracts up for negotiations at the same time, and the fact that, if their labor costs as a whole rise around 25-30% they will be posting losses again, it doesn't paint for a rosy negotiation on anyones part. Also, it doesn't help that oil keeps going up and staying that way. The most unfortunate thing is the fact that, while execs reap the bonuses the employess lose ALOT - the lifestyle of alot of people has had to change (think, no more lake house) . Trust, most airline workers are all tooooo used to this. So, the fact that the unions gave the concessions to keep AMR out of BK, they kept the largest negotiating tool in place.. THE PENSION.. Many, people will buckle and take a concession to keep that pension, and they know this - so get ready it is going to get ugly... If you took an approxy across the scale then you would assume if AMR gave workers at 3 unions a 5% pay increase and some work rules back, they will be skating on thin ice, There are two ways this can play out, as the article says, BUH BYE Eagle and other assets, or BUH BYE pension.
Walk, now. Shut them down while you have them over a barrell, not vice-versa. They'll wake up real quick. Those execs don't want to loose another round of millions in bonus money, they're too damn greedy to give it up.
IMHO of course