August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[snapthis]

Check out the backgrounds for judges M. Smith and Ikuta from the 9th. Ikuta is listed as a partner in Siegles firm. Nice! No surprise here M. Smith appointed by Bush Sr. And Ikuta appointed by W.

Hate

Good.

The more conservative the better. I'd far prefer a Scalia than a Kagan.

 

[Reed Richards]

Agreed; Silver is hard-nosed on the bench, but she twists and turns unpredictably and seems to contradict to her own words as she goes along. On one hand she says USAPA is on dangerous ground for seeking to overturn an arbitration award, and then she says USAPA doesn't have to adopt the NIC. Or she says that the Company's claim is ripe giving her full jurisdiction to provide judicial relief from their Hobson's choice, and then says she wishes she could have gone farther to provide relief - while providing no actual relief at all because she is constrained by the Ninth who only ruled on ripeness rather than the merits. Then she asks what happens to the west claim regarding the MOU and a DFR if the merger fails; the west attorney tells her they would have no basis to make a claim under that scenario, but then she declares the matter to be ripe and pushes forward despite the DOJ lawsuit that may preclude the merger possibility. I can't even begin to follow her, but if I had to guess, I would take the most likely outcome gleaned from what she says and then figure her next statement will be the opposite of what logic would dictate. If that's true, then USAPA getting a smack-down in her courtroom prior to a final ruling might prove to be good news for the east, until another appeal that is.

Nice analysis Callaway. Even if you reverse your guesses as to outcome at the end, your logic is sound. The simple truth is nobody really knows what she will do. RR

 

[snapthis]

Then you were right, here's your prize....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Thanks Pi
Looks like the 9th got this one right......................................................

 

[Reed Richards]

Thanks Pi
Looks like the 9th got this one right......................................................

I actually think they did get it right. RR

 

[Pi brat]

I did read it, it implies the Nic will be integrated with the AMR list in an MB mandated SLI.

Can you point me to anything in the MOU that implied that?

 

[Claxon]

I did read it, it implies the Nic will be integrated with the AMR list in an MB mandated SLI.

Seems 98% of the eligible West voters read the same thing.

Sure it will

 

[snapthis]

I actually think they did get it right. RR

Writs like this don't have a good success rate. I thought it was a half-court shot.

 

[Pi brat]

Thanks Pi
Looks like the 9th got this one right......................................................

As my hero Judge Silver said "The 9th is always right."

 

[Claxon]

Read it and cry me a Wye river. Keep blaming others for your stupid, ignorant and misguided information you gave to your fellow west pilots. You are not a victim, you are the perpetuator. You are living in your own feces, do not blame anyone else.

http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2008/35n020.pdf

Click the link Nic4. I dare you to face your lies. Page 68 pretty much debunks all the feces you have spread about who bought whom.
Pg 68 Statement of Facts
Corporate Transaction

 

[Pi brat]

Agreed; Silver is hard-nosed on the bench, but she twists and turns unpredictably and seems to contradict to her own words as she goes along. On one hand she says USAPA is on dangerous ground for seeking to overturn an arbitration award, and then she says USAPA doesn't have to adopt the NIC. Or she says that the Company's claim is ripe giving her full jurisdiction to provide judicial relief from their Hobson's choice, and then says she wishes she could have gone farther to provide relief - while providing no actual relief at all because she is constrained by the Ninth who only ruled on ripeness rather than the merits. Then she asks what happens to the west claim regarding the MOU and a DFR if the merger fails; the west attorney tells her they would have no basis to make a claim under that scenario, but then she declares the matter to be ripe and pushes forward despite the DOJ lawsuit that may preclude the merger possibility. I can't even begin to follow her, but if I had to guess, I would take the most likely outcome gleaned from what she says and then figure her next statement will be the opposite of what logic would dictate. If that's true, then USAPA getting a smack-down in her courtroom prior to a final ruling might prove to be good news for the east, until another appeal that is.

Good summation.

 

[Claxon]

Can you point me to anything in the MOU that implied that?

Nic4 has taken Cleardirects position of Liar in Chief.

 

[snapthis]

As my hero Judge Silver said "The 9th is always right."

She did indeed. I was there to hear it.

It was more of the 9th is always right, wink-wink.

 

[Claxon]

http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2010%2012%20Month%20Documents/Employees%20and%20Compensation/Pilots/Average%20Annual%20Wages%20and%20Salaries%20-%20PILOT%20AND%20CO-PILOT%20PERSONNEL.htm

You have difficulty with facts. The FBI could prove it, I suppose.

Res Judicata has had to face the consequences of his falsehoods.

 

[Claxon]

Nice analysis Callaway. Even if you reverse your guesses as to outcome at the end, your logic is sound. The simple truth is nobody really knows what she will do. RR

Have to admit Callaway is on his game here. The family is loaded with legal resources.

 

[Reed Richards]

Have to admit Callaway is on his game here. The family is loaded with legal resources.

I was serious, it was a good recap. An actual thoughtful post. Better than the usual chest beating from others, both sides included. RR