August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Pi brat]

Another piece of BS.

By the time the Nic came out Odell had more than the ?dozen? You claim in a prior post.

The 300 below him got a job back waaaaayyyyyy sooner than absent the merger, and what gave Odell that right is he was employed.... he did not jump anybody.

Again, just your hypocritical opinion.

The fact is Odell did not jump anybody. He should have been at least in front of Monda, but hey, Nic gave Odell the last spot, so be it!

I might be wrong. I looked on the OFFICAL west seniority list on wings(not the Nic) and there are 20 junior to him. How many were there? Facts please.

He should have been at least 300 deep into the (formerly)furloughed pilots.

 

[Pi brat]

I got the link. Haven't had a chance yet to dig into it much other than glancing at a few of the charts.

You know what I think deep down inside? Interesting. Since you know more about by deep thought than I do, then why do I advocate for the NIC even though "I know it is wrong"? Also what can I do to remove those scales?

I said I "think". You should. Pray about the scales.

 

[traderjake]

RAISES FOR ALL.... I'm sure Delta employees are happy they told Parker to pound sand.

As happy as Doug is when he tells USAPA to pound sand?

 

[cactusboy53]

Yes it was a joke. 🙂 Instead of going nuclear with the standard angle of "integrity and lies" (really? Lies?)...

Instead of performing an encore, you could have just laughed along with us. 😀

I see nothing funny about the situation that you and USAPA-faithful have created. Nothing.

 

[EastUS1]

I see nothing funny about the situation that you and USAPA-faithful have created. Nothing.

Really? Then you're taking yourself far too seriously. Heck...just the "spartan" thing alone's worth countless chuckles. 🙂

 

[Reed Richards]

Take a gander at document 183 filed by USAPA, concerning subject matter jurisdiction. Judge Silver took a wrong turn, and despite a one month delay, continues to refuse to ask for directions. She has already stretched the limits of ripeness, now she distorts the concept of jurisdiction in an apparent Wake-like lark supporting the local West Class. I predict a further delay in Judge Silver’s trial. Current events continue to blur the logic of her decisions. And while the West Class continues to hop around on one foot ( following their ill-advised and in fact desperate exchange with the Company) we now get further great news in the UAL list. Unfortunately, all these missteps by Silver and the West Class ensure we will go without a new contract for at least two years (cue response from junior West Class member telling me how low my pay is!) RR

 

[Phoenix]

I see nothing funny about the situation that you and USAPA-faithful have created. Nothing.

Nice obfuscation. Really. Classic. Well played. But mundane, typical deflection BS when politicians get called out.

I didn't tell you to laugh about USAPA. I suggested you should laugh at yourself. 🙂

You went nuclear and said I lied (check the post record below), when obviously I was simply poking fun about your penchant for bragging about ignoring posts you don't like (i.e. I wasn't "making up lies" as you said). It was funny. You should have laughed at yourself.

Now you have given us two encores.

Shall you give us a third.... Please do. Please throw in some more integrity policing.

Or better yet... Post your post that shows your are ignoring me!!

😀

Yes it was a joke. 🙂 Instead of going nuclear with the standard angle of "integrity and lies" (really? Lies?)...

Instead of performing an encore, you could have just laughed along with us. 😀

Here's what it means: I have not placed you in my personal "cornfield" at this time. It does mean that Scooter (Phoenix) is so bored that he's making up lies to get a rise.

Phoenix posted: [background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]cactusboy53, on 02 September 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:[/background]


This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by ReedRichards. View it anyway?

This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by ReedRichards. View it anyway?

I don't even know what this means. Did I win something? RR

 

[traderjake]

we now get further great news in the UAL list

You mean that status and category is twice as important as LOS?

 

[Pi brat]

Nice obfuscation. Really. Classic. Well played. But mundane, typical deflection BS when politicians get called out.

I didn't tell you to laugh about USAPA. I suggested you should laugh at yourself. 🙂

You went nuclear and said I lied (check the post record below), when obviously I was simply poking fun about your penchant for bragging about ignoring posts you don't like (i.e. I wasn't "making up lies" as you said). It was funny. You should have laughed at yourself.

Now you have given us two encores.

Shall you give us a third.... Please do. Please throw in some more integrity policing.

Or better yet... Post your post that shows your are ignoring me!!

😀

You aren't on the famous CB53 ignore? What's wrong with you?

 

[nycbusdriver]

All that gold, silver and bronze used to make the tabernacle came from somewhere.

Use the Old Testament when it suits you. Like so many "Christians" I know.

And the Israelites got the gold to make the calf idol from their desert mining operation, I imagine.

 

[Pi brat]

Okay, a few more hours on call so I went back to the way back file.

Quiz time for those that disagree with me about the Nic. Who said this in 2005?

"As for slotting, don't assume it would be one for one or tailed in such a way that the bottom flying UAir guy is paired with the bottom AWA guy. There will be some sort of slotting but consideration will be given to age and longevity as well. I expect the number one UAIR guy on furlough won't be much worse off than the bottom UAIR pilot flying. If he were markedly worse off solely because of his "furlough" status, then we're getting away from fairness and into pure arbitrariness in dictating peoples' lives and careers. The number one guy on furlough all of a sudden falls way behind the bottom flying guy, just ahead of him. Not cool."

 

[luvthe9]

Another piece of BS.

By the time the Nic came out Odell had more than the ?dozen? You claim in a prior post.

The 300 below him got a job back waaaaayyyyyy sooner than absent the merger, and what gave Odell that right is he was employed.... he did not jump anybody.

Again, just your hypocritical opinion.

The fact is Odell did not jump anybody. He should have been at least in front of Monda, but hey, Nic gave Odell the last spot, so be it!

Odell is quite happy on the east by the way and will be upgrading way before you westies, the east saved Dave.

 

[luvthe9]

As happy as Doug is when he tells USAPA to pound sand?

Yes, thanks to weak d**ks like you that voted for LOA93 and this POS MOU.

 

[Phoenix]

Take a gander at document 183 filed by USAPA, concerning subject matter jurisdiction. Judge Silver took a wrong turn, and despite a one month delay, continues to refuse to ask for directions. She has already stretched the limits of ripeness, now she distorts the concept of jurisdiction in an apparent Wake-like lark supporting the local West Class. I predict a further delay in Judge Silver’s trial. Current events continue to blur the logic of her decisions. And while the West Class continues to hop around on one foot ( following their ill-advised and in fact desperate exchange with the Company) we now get further great news in the UAL list. Unfortunately, all these missteps by Silver and the West Class ensure we will go without a new contract for at least two years (cue response from junior West Class member telling me how low my pay is!) RR

Very well written Motion to Reconsider. The court cannot assume harm, but of course that is exactly what Silver Did back on 15 Aug when she dismissed Pat's point of order regarding Article III jurisdiction...

Perhaps she was caught off guard in the past, but she plainly proceeded on the assumption that the merger would proceed, and she made the dubious claim that injury to the plaintiff was something to be decided AFTER the trial, rather than as a precondition to having a justicable claim for her to begin the trial.

On several occasions she has pulled Shite out of the air. This time her only hope is for the DOJ to announce approval on Monday!

For easy review, Judge Silver's words regarding her Jurisdiction... On August 15th...

MR. SZYMANSKI: At this point. At this point, Your Honor, it is. At this point it is. I don't think that the Court has even Article III jurisdiction at this point, given this lawsuit, because without --
THE COURT: Wait a minute. Why don't I have jurisdiction? That's a very important issue, and I -- I don't understand what you're saying.
MR. SZYMANSKI: Your Honor, there is no injury to the plaintiffs unless the merger goes forward.
THE COURT: Well, I disagree with you on that. If that's your position as to why or why not there is jurisdiction, then I -- I disagree with you. Whether or not there's injury is a decision to be made after the case is presented and the defense is presented. That doesn't have to do -- or has anything to do whether this Court has Article III jurisdiction of this matter before it.
MR. SZYMANSKI: But Your Honor, the claim is that we're going to be going to a seniority integration proceeding without using the Nicolau Award. And unless there is a merger, there is no seniority integration proceeding; there is no memorandum of understanding --
THE COURT: So you're not talking about jurisdiction, you're talking about moot, right? Talking about jurisprudential jurisdiction of some sort, is that it?
MR. SZYMANSKI: Injury in fact, Your Honor. I'm talking about injuries in fact. There is no injury in fact unless --
THE COURT: Well, there's no --
MR. SZYMANSKI: -- there is a seniority integration
-- THE COURT: I'm sorry to interrupt you, but there's no
injury in fact, the question is then today if there's injury in fact. If I held a -- a trial based upon what we had before, starting September 24th, assuming that this merger was going to go forward, I would decide whether or not there was injury.

 

[Reed Richards]

Yes, thanks to weak d**ks like you that voted for LOA93 and this POS MOU.

[font="Arial""]Agree about LOA 93, we were our own worst enemy. I disagree with your MOU assessment, but note you should be very happy. It’s as if that MOU never happened. It simply is dead with the merger being over. RR[/font]