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Yes, maybe you could shed some light on the Sec 22 grievance? Is that confidential?

Callowaycady is hypersensitive to the Sec 22 grievance and seems to be in the know... Maybe he can elaborate!

I think it is time for a repost of the "Chimney Pull Challenge" video...
 
There are big problems out West. There is now a solid divide on sticking with NIC or nothing. Seems a lot of West Class folks are tired of "nothing." Being paid only slightly more than the East, trapped in PHX, no wide body upgrades, and a general sense that there simply will be no improvement on anything for years has the rank and file squirming.

I always suspected that luvthe9 was posting under a second user name after he totally discredited himself with his Kasher call.

RR or whoever you are, you can quit begging the West to come off the Nicolau award.
 
There are big problems out West. There is now a solid divide on sticking with NIC or nothing. Seems a lot of West Class folks are tired of "nothing." Being paid only slightly more than the East, trapped in PHX, no wide body upgrades, and a general sense that there simply will be no improvement on anything for years has the rank and file squirming. The Legal effort is in a shambles after the Section 22 fiasco. Fingers are pointing, loyalties are being questioned. All they have left is to somehow prove they were "tricked" into voting for the MOU. Late October is shaping up to be a train wreck for all of them. RR (cue a junior West Class member telling me how bad I have it out East.)
LOL!!!!!
 
I always suspected that luvthe9 was posting under a second user name after he totally discredited himself with his Kasher call.

RR or whoever you are, you can quit begging the West to come off the Nicolau award.


Nailed me! I am "luvthe9." Took you long enough. I am not begging the West to come off the award. There simply is no award to come off of; and Judge Silver has made it quite clear she will have nothing to do with it. My efforts here are to convince everyone that 1) the merger is dead, and 2) we are going nowhere contract wise with our current and looming litigation. There will be no NIC, and there will be no lifestyle improvements for any pilots East and West for years. The only way you personally will get a pay raise is for enough attrition to occur to meet your lifestyle standards for upgrade. And once again, please post a link to any decision Kasher has made on either LOA 93 or the 3%. I am waiting. Luv
 
There are big problems out West. There is now a solid divide on sticking with NIC or nothing. Seems a lot of West Class folks are tired of "nothing." Being paid only slightly more than the East, trapped in PHX, no wide body upgrades, and a general sense that there simply will be no improvement on anything for years has the rank and file squirming. The Legal effort is in a shambles after the Section 22 fiasco. Fingers are pointing, loyalties are being questioned. All they have left is to somehow prove they were "tricked" into voting for the MOU. Late October is shaping up to be a train wreck for all of them. RR (cue a junior West Class member telling me how bad I have it out East.)

Absolutely true. The money IS the issue. Marty has delivered NOTHING. The MOU vote was proved not a JCBA. the general feeling is they want a way out with LOS. Even clear bailed on you guys. It is over.
 
I always suspected that luvthe9 was posting under a second user name after he totally discredited himself with his Kasher call.

RR or whoever you are, you can quit begging the West to come off the Nicolau award.

You got me. And now Marty is the one begging them to come off the Nic.
 
There are big problems out West. There is now a solid divide on sticking with NIC or nothing. Seems a lot of West Class folks are tired of "nothing." Being paid only slightly more than the East, trapped in PHX, no wide body upgrades, and a general sense that there simply will be no improvement on anything for years has the rank and file squirming. The Legal effort is in a shambles after the Section 22 fiasco. Fingers are pointing, loyalties are being questioned. All they have left is to somehow prove they were "tricked" into voting for the MOU. Late October is shaping up to be a train wreck for all of them. RR (cue a junior West Class member telling me how bad I have it out East.)

Well, that's news to me. The only divide I'm aware of is the one on the east between the DOH or die crowd and the let's get the $&;! off LOA 93 crowd. What do I know though, I'm on the outside.

Bean
 
Well, that's news to me. The only divide I'm aware of is the one on the east between the DOH or die crowd and the let's get the $&;! off LOA 93 crowd. What do I know though, I'm on the outside.

Bean

The East is not unanimous about what they want. Just look at the CLT election results.... Yeah, the CLT rep elections tell you all you need to know. :lol:

Now, about those elections for the folks that are spending the West donations (and now demanding monthly deposits)....

Do those folks let you vote on who represents your interests?
Do they tell you exactly who is on the take?
Do they admit any personal conflicts of interest?
Do they let you see the Sec 22 grievance results?
 
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