August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Reed Richards]

You mean this part?

Plaintiffs have moved to certify a class, US Airways Inc. has moved to intervene,
17 third-party Leonidas LLC has moved to quash two subpoenas, and the US Airline Pilots
18 Association (“USAPA”) has moved for reconsideration of the Court’s refusal to dismiss this
19 case. As set forth below, a class will be certified, intervention will be allowed, the subpoenas
20 will be quashed, and the request for reconsideration will be denied.

No worries. The discovery process, indeed delayed, played out oh so well. Nuff said. You are not winning a DFR, much less getting the NIC. Both of those are Reed Richard's predictions. I am seldom, if ever wrong on legal matters. RR

 

[Phoenix]

No worries. The discovery process, indeed delayed, played out oh so well. Nuff said. You are not winning a DFR, much less getting the NIC. Both of those are Reed Richard's predictions. I am seldom, if ever wrong on legal matters. RR

Yes, but Judge Silver stopped being involved in legal matters when she decided to establish Article III jurisdiction by fiat.

I am too kind to think she is incompetent enough to assert that she has no responsibility to find plausible, direct, and immediate harm before a trial, as a prerequisite to jurisdiction... Instead of "incompetent", I am inclined to think she is merely a "pragmatist", discovering on occasion that politics are the greater factor. She has shown herself as a lose cannon on deck several times, and frankly IMHO it is not possible to predict what she will do.. at least not based on the law, and I am not in the circle of trust for other factors she is privy to.

 

[Phoenix]

You mean this part?

Plaintiffs have moved to certify a class, US Airways Inc. has moved to intervene,
17 third-party Leonidas LLC has moved to quash two subpoenas, and the US Airline Pilots
18 Association (“USAPA&rdquo😉 has moved for reconsideration of the Court’s refusal to dismiss this
19 case. As set forth below, a class will be certified, intervention will be allowed, the subpoenas
20 will be quashed, and the request for reconsideration will be denied.

No. This part: Silver has no authority to assume the merger will go through, and she has never enumerated any injury to plaintiff, without which there is no Article III basis to have a trial. As a judge she is sworn to uphold the Constitution but she is proceeding by her own fiat. That integrity. Clear now? (More to the point, Plaintiff has never articulated their injury, and Silver has never required it nor opined 😀 it for them)


MR. SZYMANSKI: Your Honor, there is no injury to the
plaintiffs unless the merger goes forward.
THE COURT: Well, I disagree with you on that. If
that's your position as to why or why not there is jurisdiction,
then I -- I disagree with you. Whether or not
there's injury is a decision to be made after the case is
presented and the defense is presented. That doesn't have to
do -- or has anything to do whether this Court has Article III
jurisdiction of this matter before it.


THE COURT: I'm sorry to interrupt you, but there's no
injury in fact, the question is then today if there's injury in
fact. If I held a -- a trial based upon what we had before,
starting September 24th, assuming that this merger was going to
go forward, I would decide whether or not there was injury.

 

[Reed Richards]

Yes, but Judge Silver stopped being involved in legal matters when she decided to establish Article III jurisdiction by fiat.

I am too kind to think she is incompetent enough to assert that she has no responsibility to find plausible, direct, and immediate harm before a trial, as a prerequisite to jurisdiction... Instead of "incompetent", I am inclined to think she is merely a "pragmatist", discovering on occasion that politics are the greater factor. She has shown herself as a lose cannon on deck several times, and frankly IMHO it is not possible to predict what she will do.. at least not based on the law, and I am not in the circle of trust for other factors she is privy to.

Let me be clear in my legal predictions. Silver will NOT rule in USAPA's favor. This is going to the Ninth. USAPA will prevail there, no doubt at all. All part of my predicated 2 year timeline to any new negotiations with US Airways for improved working conditions. Hunker down all, this is yet another long haul with very few beans and franks for the trek. Its called SERE. (not SIRI!) RR

 

[traderjake]

Those assholes in Congress can't repeal the Affordable Care Act legally (at least not now), so they're throwing a tantrum.

Seems the Republicans aren't the only one's throwing a tantrum.

“Right now, unless you and the Obama administration enact an equitable fix, the ACA will shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits, but destroy the foundation of the 40-hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.”

— Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa in a July 2013 letter to Sen. Harry Reid and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the top Senate and House Democrats

http://nypost.com/20...s-on-obamacare/

 

[mrbreeze]

!!!!!

 

[nycbusdriver]

They're using all legal options available to them under the Constitution to get what they want.

As a USAPA supporter I'd have thought you'd understand that.

I agree. That doesn't mean that Boner and his Tea Party minions aren't assholes.

We always get the government (or union) that we deserve.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I left before the EU arrived with more Socialism. The leadership of the Iron Lady was more to my liking. That goes for Reagan as well.

I still visit with my friends in Lancashire, one who was waiting for heart surgery for more than a year in the 90's.

Look at the waiting list now...

Surgery waiting lists hit one million
by JENNY HOPE, Daily Mail
More than a million people are still waiting for operations and the number has increased by almost 18,000 in the last year.

http://www.dailymail...it-million.html

We don't need the EU model here.

European Socialism: Why America Doesn't Want It

http://www.forbes.co...doesnt-want-it/

If the heart surgery was so critical that it could not be postponed (sounds like elective surgery to me), why didn't he simply head for the US, or another country, where he could purchase exactly what he needed when he wanted it?

I suspect I know why.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Anyone know if the promises made to Texas are legally binding? The City of Pittsburgh wants to know. Congrats to the Bucks! RR

It doesn't really matter. The AA infrastructure in Fort Worth would be very costly to abandon.

This Texas AG was simply looking for a face-saver to extricate himself from an ill thought-out ploy to get free publicity for his campaign for some higher office. The HQ situation was the best option once the voters of Texes let him know that his stunt was counter-prodcutive to his political aspirations.

The PIT facilities (the bunker, the little red schoolhouse, the bigger yellow schoolhouse) were all leased joke-facilities.

 

[767one]

Seems the Republicans aren't the only one's throwing a tantrum.

“Right now, unless you and the Obama administration enact an equitable fix, the ACA will shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits, but destroy the foundation of the 40-hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.”

— Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa in a July 2013 letter to Sen. Harry Reid and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the top Senate and House Democrats

http://nypost.com/20...s-on-obamacare/

For those of you approaching age 65 here are some thoughts about your hard earned health benefits. Actually these are not really benefits as you pay more for health care after you retire. You will have medciare taxes deducted from your social security check . You will need a supplemental health policy and you will have to get medicare part D (drugs) or pay a fine. For a couple the age of my wife and myself you will need to figure about $6,000 a year for these benefits. Keep in mind you may also (depending on your plan) have a deductible for both plans. As far as part D that appears to be one of the biggest scams the drug companies have perpetrated on the public and the government is complicit in the operation of the scam. On one occasion one of the "preferred mail providers" sent a generic drug even after getting the note from the doctor for the brand medication, charged us $225 for the generic and would not refund or take the medication for an exchange. They did however offer the brand medication for $775 additional dollars copay for a 90 day supply.

My wife recently heard a young (30 or so) couple talking about how sad it was they had to pay for all the medical bills and social security for old folks. Lucky for all my wife was able to stifle herself until out of earshot otherwise someone would have gone to the hospital to have my wife's foot removed from his Arse!

All the best,

Bob

 

[flyer63]

We don't need it, but I am of the opinion that a majority absolutely wants it.

There are a majority of greedy, entitlement voters that want the government to redistribute the wealth, a powerful elite that wants to be richer by skimming more, and enough guilt ridden idiots that want to console their conscience by giving back more because they "didn't build it".

The wealth has already been re distributed. Look at the facts. The middle class is just trying to claw back some.

 

[Freighterguynow]

For those of you approaching age 65 here are some thoughts about your hard earned health benefits. Actually these are not really benefits as you pay more for health care after you retire. You will have medciare taxes deducted from your social security check . You will need a supplemental health policy and you will have to get medicare part D (drugs) or pay a fine. For a couple the age of my wife and myself you will need to figure about $6,000 a year for these benefits. Keep in mind you may also (depending on your plan) have a deductible for both plans. As far as part D that appears to be one of the biggest scams the drug companies have perpetrated on the public and the government is complicit in the operation of the scam. On one occasion one of the "preferred mail providers" sent a generic drug even after getting the note from the doctor for the brand medication, charged us $225 for the generic and would not refund or take the medication for an exchange. They did however offer the brand medication for $775 additional dollars copay for a 90 day supply.

My wife recently heard a young (30 or so) couple talking about how sad it was they had to pay for all the medical bills and social security for old folks. Lucky for all my wife was able to stifle herself until out of earshot otherwise someone would have gone to the hospital to have my wife's foot removed from his Arse!

All the best,

Bob

Well, Bob that 30's couple may be facing $24,000 per year in insurance premiums because they are self employed and purchasing it on the open market.

Zero Social Security income to offset those premiums AND that generation will see only 24% of their social security taxes ( at 13 % ) ever returned.

 

[snapthis]

We don't need it, but I am of the opinion that a majority absolutely wants it.

There are a majority of greedy, entitlement voters that want the government to redistribute the wealth, a powerful elite that wants to be richer by skimming more, and enough guilt ridden idiots that want to console their conscience by giving back more because they "didn't build it".

I can see both sides of the argument. My grandparents were non-union textile mill workers for the Bibb Company. They lived in a town called ARNCO where even the housing was provided by the company. I remember my visits in the 60's where the entertainment was a Daisy BB gun or placing coins on the railroad tracks and looking for the pancaked coins in the rocks after the train had passed. A community where the cornerstone was the Baptist Church.

My parents escaped the mills by getting advanced degrees and climbing the corporate ladder. Both sat on the other side of the table from union reps. When I came home with my ALPA pin, my father went out of his way to let me know how much he hated unions. We went head-to-head on this subject and I really sent him over the edge with my display of union support. Now, I have seen another side where union power can be abused and used against the workers it claims to represent. It's funny how your parents get a lot smarter as the years go by.

I have an appreciation of my grandparents working in those mills in the Depression Era and for my parents who wanted something more. It's education which can break the cycle of dependency on the government or finding a better opportunities.There are people who simply feed off the system. Meanwhile, others are contributing to the pot, hardworking middle-class and others just trying to make it paycheck to paycheck.

Given opportunity, the free market works. We don't need the government reaching in our pockets deeper to fund programs of endless dependency.

 

[snapthis]

Dupe

 

[Phoenix]

I can see both sides of the argument. My grandparents were non-union textile mill workers for the Bibb Company. They lived in a town called ARNCO where even the housing was provided by the company. I remember my visits in the 60's where the entertainment was a Daisy BB gun or placing coins on the railroad tracks and looking for the pancaked coins in the rocks after the train had passed. A community where the cornerstone was the Baptist Church.

My parents escaped the mills by getting advanced degrees and climbing the corporate ladder. Both sat on the other side of the table from union reps. When I came home with my ALPA pin, my father went out of his way to let me know how much he hated unions. We went head-to-head on this subject and I really sent him over the edge with my display of union support. Now, I have seen another side where union power can be abused and used against the workers it claims to represent. It's funny how your parents get a lot smarter as the years go by.

I have an appreciation of my grandparents working in those mills in the Depression Era and for my parents who wanted something more. It's education which can break the cycle of dependency on the government or finding a better opportunities.There are people who simply feed off the system. Meanwhile, others are contributing to the pot, hardworking middle-class and others just trying to make it paycheck to paycheck.

Given opportunity, the free market works. We don't need the government reaching in our pockets deeper to fund programs of endless dependency.

That's a cute story but it had absolutely nothing to do with my post. Nevermind. 😀