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Checked all the TWU sites and they have nothing to say. The 502 came around a week ago to distribute laminated “One Union …One Voice tags to be displayed in the vests we are forced to wear. I find the lack of information that should now done on a daily basis, done with signs reading “BE READY.” Well be ready for what??? The second visit from Christ??? Give us something to use and not a vague parable.
 
Checked all the TWU sites and they have nothing to say. The 502 came around a week ago to distribute laminated “One Union …One Voice tags to be displayed in the vests we are forced to wear. I find the lack of information that should now done on a daily basis, done with signs reading “BE READY.” Well be ready for what??? The second visit from Christ??? Give us something to use and not a vague parable.


Be ready to be lied to and manipulated into a belief that they really have not backed themselves into a corner and to get themselves out will require negotiations to start over which the NMB will frown upon.

Be ready to pretend that we are united and not divided.

Be ready to talk strike in front of management attempting to instill fear in them in hopes they will let us out of the corner we are backed into.

Be ready to fund more political campaigns on the promise of favorable NMB appointments and funding of free loaders with your paycheck via massive taxes.

Be ready to beat the big bass drum of save the profession once again as we get our noses rubbed in the dirt.

Be ready to view an impossible to obtain proposal that will hopefully make you feel llike the long wait will be worth it in the end.

Be ready to accept a Union Takeover of your retirement medical that will cost you dearly in the future.

Be ready to walk an informational picket line whining to customers about how management lies more than your union.

Be ready to watch the economy sink into a doube dip recession and what you were just offered will be really looking good.

Be ready to vote in an election between AMP and the TWU.

Just Sayin....
 
Informer, we sure can use your help as an AMP organizer in Tulsa. AFW is at 60% and climbing and DFW is at least 80%. ]
 
Informer, we sure can use your help as an AMP organizer in Tulsa. AFW is at 60% and climbing and DFW is at least 80%. ]

I am afraid I burned myself out during 5 years of trying to get AMFA on the property.
Besides,that experience tells me that the TWU and AA Management together will be your best signed card collectors.

As O.V. Delle-Femine used to say on a regular basis. Patience will always be our greatest virtue.

No organization can continue to survive only by lies, cheating, unethical conduct, and a leadership that is unaccountbale.

Advice:
Get the solid base signed again and wait for the TWU to get you the rest. Nothing wrong with strategy sessions that create circumstances similar to a chess game. Making a move to solicit a predictaable reaction from the TWU was our best tool until the 2003 Concessions threw the gauntlet of signed cards into our lap. Most that have been around the TWU for any length of time can create a predicted response from the fools. That is why AA Manamgement loves them so much and feared a union change. AA Management uses the "action to garner a predictable reaction strategy" on a regular basis to get what they want, and that same strategy also worked pretty darn well getting AMFA cards signed.

Read a few of those post here on this forum and you will find many that believe I am the reason the AMFA drive failed. I guess you either love me or hate me, but that comes from having the guts to speak my mind.

I hear some of those predictable responses are coming soon as a result of your activities and increased visiible support and the AMP card signing will grow in spurts in conjunction with their ignorance. Trust me Lies and Fear is all they know.

Just Sayin....
 
I am afraid I burned myself out during 5 years of trying to get AMFA on the property.
Besides,that experience tells me that the TWU and AA Management together will be your best signed card collectors.

As O.V. Delle-Femine used to say on a regular basis. Patience will always be our greatest virtue.

No organization can continue to survive only by lies, cheating, unethical conduct, and a leadership that is unaccountbale.

Advice:
Get the solid base signed again and wait for the TWU to get you the rest. Nothing wrong with strategy sessions that create circumstances similar to a chess game. Making a move to solicit a predictaable reaction from the TWU was our best tool until the 2003 Concessions threw the gauntlet of signed cards into our lap. Most that have been around the TWU for any length of time can create a predicted response from the fools. That is why AA Manamgement loves them so much and feared a union change. AA Management uses the "action to garner a predictable reaction strategy" on a regular basis to get what they want, and that same strategy also worked pretty darn well getting AMFA cards signed.

Read a few of those post here on this forum and you will find many that believe I am the reason the AMFA drive failed. I guess you either love me or hate me, but that comes from having the guts to speak my mind.

I hear some of those predictable responses are coming soon as a result of your activities and increased visiible support and the AMP card signing will grow in spurts in conjunction with their ignorance. Trust me Lies and Fear is all they know.

Just Sayin....
If you can just relay what you post on this forum to your co-workers, that would be very helpfull . You will be on the clock, no time waisted.
 
Each and everyone of us is hoping for a negotiated contract that makes us feel more secure about our future.

But here is the truth regarding our current situation.

Regardless of your seniorty, regardless of your status of Line Mechanic or Overhaul Mechanic. And regardless of your financial position/status as of this post. Let me tell you what should matter to you more than dollar or benefit recovery from the concessions of 2003.

American Airlines for quite sometime now has been placing any warm body into positions that are opened by retirement, death, or resignation. These advancements are happening regardless of ability to accomplish the job required.

The real problem within this airline and largest threat against your future is the fact that AA promotes or advances employees into positions regardless of their ability to effectively perform the function of the job at hand.

I have witnessed a major degradation of ability within the last 5 years. As a result of this failing business philosophy we are all in the crosshairs of failure. Sure you can place incapable employees into positions within a company this size for awhile, but eventually the ramifications of such practices will leave your airline, your maintenance base, your customer experience lacking the required basic element of survival, and that element is skill and experience to accomplish some simple task that may appear on the surface as irrelevant. But in time enough of this demolition management philosphy will place you in a major threat of failing to survive within a simple competetive enviornment. Let me be clear here, We Are Not in a Simple Competetive Enviornment we are in a struggle of our life time and our mangement is failing us beyond the basic principles of business.

Our Union and our Union Members should be placing a premium on a change of management direction instead of a premium on concession reimbursement. We are about to fail in terms that are equivelant to Eastern Airlines, Pan American, and even TWA. Meanwhile, and as we all sense this to be true, there is a group that believes changing unions is the answer to this delima, and there are those that believe that the answer lies within the dollars that can computed into pay and benefits. My opinion is that a change of corporate leadership and direction should be top priority at this time.

I will state without hesitation that I believe the most important item the union could obtain for us all right now is a change of corporate leadership that will secure this airline as a leader of the future industry profile. We are basically treading water without direction, without proper advancement of meaningful skill, experience and ability. We are watching American Airliines become extinct right before our eyes. And while we watch this,we are all upset by the lies and deceptions of Shared Gain and Shared Sacrifice.

Do not be so foolish to let your anger and your resentment regarding the lies and deception be your beacon of direction wthin the near future. Secure a change of Corporate Leadership first, then work towards the goal of restoring that which has been lost. I am sorry to inform you that failure to follow this simple advice will actually lead to complete and utter failure of us all. And in the end, the Union Membership will suffer absolute despair instead of temporary despair. I want a more permanent fix to this debacle, not temporary financial relief.

Do Not let your emotions over power your intelligence. Else we are all doomed.
We are in a situation that without proper union leadership, corporate leadership is going to destroy us all.

Get your Freakin Priorities Straight or be prepared for the worst.
Go ahead call me a fool. And in the end, all I will have is I told you so.


Just Sayin....
 
Sorry informer, but you have a better chance at "restore and more" than replacing this crew. This bright BOD will have none of that IMHO!
 
You are absolutely correct Informer. These guys need to leave before the whole thing burns to the ground. Which BTW is what some here advocate.
 
The real problem within this airline and largest threat against your future is the fact that AA promotes or advances employees into positions regardless of their ability to effectively perform the function of the job at hand.


There is no doubt that the management is out of touch. Currently in hangar 1, one dysfunctional dock is being dispersed to the other functional docks in order to fill what management has erroneously called needed manpower demands. The grand plan of finishing the 737 retrofit program is being delayed by years due to incompetence and lack of accountability. Instead of asking for input from the functional (on time) docks as to whether they need extra manpower, they are being needlessly forced to accept personnel from the dysfunctional dock. AA has hired RLG to improve communications and this is what we get? This is just one example of failed leadership. In my opinion, the 400 mechanics the company has said they must acquire to meet demand is no more than a proclamation that they cannot efficiently manage the personnel they currently have.
 
There is no doubt that the management is out of touch. Currently in hangar 1, one dysfunctional dock is being dispersed to the other functional docks in order to fill what management has erroneously called needed manpower demands. The grand plan of finishing the 737 retrofit program is being delayed by years due to incompetence and lack of accountability. Instead of asking for input from the functional (on time) docks as to whether they need extra manpower, they are being needlessly forced to accept personnel from the dysfunctional dock. AA has hired RLG to improve communications and this is what we get? This is just one example of failed leadership. In my opinion, the 400 mechanics the company has said they must acquire to meet demand is no more than a proclamation that they cannot efficiently manage the personnel they currently have.

Mr. Birdman and Mr. Informer:

What you gents are referring to is called "The Peter Principle".

"The Peter Principle is the principle that "in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to their level of incompetence".
It was formulated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter and Raymond Hull in their 1969 book The Peter Principle, a humorous treatise which also introduced the "salutary science of hierarchiology", "inadvertently founded" by Peter. It holds that in a hierarchy, members are promoted so long as they work competently. Sooner or later they are promoted to a position at which they are no longer competent (their "level of incompetence"), and there they remain, being unable to earn further promotions. This principle can be modelled and has theoretical validity for simulations.[1] Peter's Corollary states that "in time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out their duties" and adds that "work is accomplished by those employees who have not yet reached their level of incompetence". < from Wikipedia>


Rather than watch the internal workings of the "principle", the book is available on Amazon so one can see what comes next as this is obviously the "Bible" adhered to by AMR, American Airlines, and its wholly owned subsidiary, the TWU.

Note - this book was published in 1969 before some in AMR's ivory towers were in high school - even though the problem was given a name then, it had already existed for quite some time. This is the result of salaried personnel typically hiring someone dumber than they so as not to introduce a threat to their position. Those doing the hiring should be hiring their replacement to train in order for them to move up.

Because of this brand of incompetence, most (not all) American business is in a downward spiral. It IS NOT solely an American Airlines/AMR problem but systemic throughout the USA within the mega-business community.

As funny as it is watching management personnel flop about like beached whales in positions they don't comprehend, they are endangering the livelihoods of many by playing childrens' games and outright incompetence from the bottom to the top.

You are quite correct, Mr. Informer, in that a management "renewal" is needed far more than a replacement union/organization/etcetera/etal for the mechanics and related (or all workers, for that matter) but it's rather doubtful the BOD could find the time for an honest look at their current "fair-haired boyz" for the benefit of AMR's shareholders.
 
Each and everyone of us is hoping for a negotiated contract that makes us feel more secure about our future.

But here is the truth regarding our current situation.

Regardless of your seniorty, regardless of your status of Line Mechanic or Overhaul Mechanic. And regardless of your financial position/status as of this post. Let me tell you what should matter to you more than dollar or benefit recovery from the concessions of 2003.

American Airlines for quite sometime now has been placing any warm body into positions that are opened by retirement, death, or resignation. These advancements are happening regardless of ability to accomplish the job required.

The real problem within this airline and largest threat against your future is the fact that AA promotes or advances employees into positions regardless of their ability to effectively perform the function of the job at hand.

I have witnessed a major degradation of ability within the last 5 years. As a result of this failing business philosophy we are all in the crosshairs of failure. Sure you can place incapable employees into positions within a company this size for awhile, but eventually the ramifications of such practices will leave your airline, your maintenance base, your customer experience lacking the required basic element of survival, and that element is skill and experience to accomplish some simple task that may appear on the surface as irrelevant. But in time enough of this demolition management philosphy will place you in a major threat of failing to survive within a simple competetive enviornment. Let me be clear here, We Are Not in a Simple Competetive Enviornment we are in a struggle of our life time and our mangement is failing us beyond the basic principles of business.

Our Union and our Union Members should be placing a premium on a change of management direction instead of a premium on concession reimbursement. We are about to fail in terms that are equivelant to Eastern Airlines, Pan American, and even TWA. Meanwhile, and as we all sense this to be true, there is a group that believes changing unions is the answer to this delima, and there are those that believe that the answer lies within the dollars that can computed into pay and benefits. My opinion is that a change of corporate leadership and direction should be top priority at this time.

I will state without hesitation that I believe the most important item the union could obtain for us all right now is a change of corporate leadership that will secure this airline as a leader of the future industry profile. We are basically treading water without direction, without proper advancement of meaningful skill, experience and ability. We are watching American Airliines become extinct right before our eyes. And while we watch this,we are all upset by the lies and deceptions of Shared Gain and Shared Sacrifice.

Do not be so foolish to let your anger and your resentment regarding the lies and deception be your beacon of direction wthin the near future. Secure a change of Corporate Leadership first, then work towards the goal of restoring that which has been lost. I am sorry to inform you that failure to follow this simple advice will actually lead to complete and utter failure of us all. And in the end, the Union Membership will suffer absolute despair instead of temporary despair. I want a more permanent fix to this debacle, not temporary financial relief.

Do Not let your emotions over power your intelligence. Else we are all doomed.
We are in a situation that without proper union leadership, corporate leadership is going to destroy us all.

Get your Freakin Priorities Straight or be prepared for the worst.
Go ahead call me a fool. And in the end, all I will have is I told you so.


Just Sayin....
Very Well said!!!!!
 

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