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It was and is the sequence of events related to the deaths that caused them to lie that is issue.
You should know that old buddy.
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There are four issues here, Tree.
1) Dereliction of duty before the fact... why was security cut to below the minimums required by DOS policy, and by which exceptions can only be made by SecState? The deaths were likely preventable had the minimum level of security required by DOS been in place.
2) Dereliction of duty during the event... Reinforcements were ready to move, and were told to stand down. Failing to provide adequate support and cover to our forces under fire is treasonous. At least two of the deaths were avoidable had reinforcements been sent as soon as the attack started.
3) Covering up the facts after the fact; outright lying to the families, the country, and the world, in what apparently was intended to avoid political embarrassment and/or defeat at the polls. The deaths weren't preventable, but DOS and POTUS were quite concerned about accountability, especially that close to an election. They put their own needs ahead of the country and the Constitution. That's also effectively treason.
4) Reckless endangerment of a US legal resident (video producer Mark Basseley Youssef), who was outed by Federal prosecutors investigating the video solely on the claims it was responsible for the attacks; he is still jailed, his family is in hiding, and he's been condemned to death by an Egyptian court. His life and reputation are forever ruined because he was made to be the scapegoat for DOS and POTUS's desire for self-preservation.
The cover-up is directly tied to all four of these issues. Had reinforcements been sent in, and this been identified as terrorism, it would never have become such a big issue. The lies are what have caused people to peel back the onion.
Is that enough for you? Or are you still convinced it's just a way for a bunch of redneck Chick-Fil-A loversto try and punish Obama?...
1) Dereliction of duty before the fact... why was security cut to below the minimums required by DOS policy, and by which exceptions can only be made by SecState? The deaths were likely preventable had the minimum level of security required by DOS been in place.
2) Dereliction of duty during the event... Reinforcements were ready to move, and were told to stand down. Failing to provide adequate support and cover to our forces under fire is treasonous. At least two of the deaths were avoidable had reinforcements been sent as soon as the attack started.
3) Covering up the facts after the fact; outright lying to the families, the country, and the world, in what apparently was intended to avoid political embarrassment and/or defeat at the polls. The deaths weren't preventable, but DOS and POTUS were quite concerned about accountability, especially that close to an election. They put their own needs ahead of the country and the Constitution. That's also effectively treason.
4) Reckless endangerment of a US legal resident (video producer Mark Basseley Youssef), who was outed by Federal prosecutors investigating the video solely on the claims it was responsible for the attacks; he is still jailed, his family is in hiding, and he's been condemned to death by an Egyptian court. His life and reputation are forever ruined because he was made to be the scapegoat for DOS and POTUS's desire for self-preservation.
The cover-up is directly tied to all four of these issues. Had reinforcements been sent in, and this been identified as terrorism, it would never have become such a big issue. The lies are what have caused people to peel back the onion.
Is that enough for you? Or are you still convinced it's just a way for a bunch of redneck Chick-Fil-A loversto try and punish Obama?...
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Well summarized Ed, but remember, you're talking to Tree.
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That much I do agree with here.
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Top story on NBC Nightly News tonight. Not looking good for the Obama Administration! As far as peeling back the lies of the Obama Administration, where would one start?
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We know what Obama was doing during the Benghazi terrorist attack, planning yet another AF1 campaign trip to Vegas and
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Well...we can always HOPE he got a BJ in there somewhere. But bears is right....the republicans are so focused on this that they will let the country rot some more. Ask the average person that doesn't post on political message boards what Benghazi is and they'll likely tell you that it was some sort of cream you put on achy muscles. You HAVE to get the blowjob in there if we want to outrage America.
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Unlike the democrats with the Iran-Contra, Anita Hill, Watergate, etc., seems like selective memory happens when we live in glass houses and roll boulders! What's good for the goose, you know 🙄
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This country has been rotting away, since the day BaRack stepped into office !
I know, I know. Accusing the Anointed One of "ANY" wrongdoing is blasphemy !
Anyone seen any jobs or a constitution, around here ?
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Yes...but apparently democrats are much swifter at it. Watergate...discovered after the 72 elections and Nixon resigned. Iran Contra....just a few months. Let's compare that to the "whitewater scandal", shall we? A "special prosecutor" was appointed about 37 minutes after Bill Clinton said "so help me God" in January 1993. They doggedly pursued this real estate deal gone bad - and this travel office scandal. Then this "murder" of Vince Foster. Then the cocaine trafficking accusations. Then the troopergate issue....until finally....5 and a half years later...they get the goods.....Clinton lied about a blowjob. Impeachment hearings are set and finally, 6 months later, Clinton is aquitted because Republicans at that time still has SOME semblence of a brain and realized that lying about a blowjob wasn't worth all that trouble.
So you see...the republicans have the market cornered when it comes to investigating scandals.
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Despite the fact that the REPUGS....."THINK" they're 'holding 4 ACES"....the only 'thing' that may/might/could...'have legs'...with the Majority of votes in 16' (keeping in mind that they are ALL low info voters),.....IS......the issuing of ..STAND DOWN...orders.
Now if EL-Rushbo was correct today, and this time I'm thinking he may be, is the fact that Hillary, and/or Leon Panetta...DO NOT/DID NOT have the authority to issue such orders to the Military, therefore the Military commander who was in charge over there pays NO attention to such (Hypothetical) order/orders. Hypothetical 'Stands' until such time that it can be proven !
Not exactly Rocket Science !
Now if EL-Rushbo was correct today, and this time I'm thinking he may be, is the fact that Hillary, and/or Leon Panetta...DO NOT/DID NOT have the authority to issue such orders to the Military, therefore the Military commander who was in charge over there pays NO attention to such (Hypothetical) order/orders. Hypothetical 'Stands' until such time that it can be proven !
Not exactly Rocket Science !
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Not exactly rocket scientists thinking this will have any legs outside of the Just Ain't Right.
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