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The funny part is that some people actually think another union would mke their lives better. It's like those defense mechanisms we learn about in flight school.
 
[ The funny part is that some people actually think another union would mke their lives better.


Could not get any worse at ALPA, so nothing to lose by trying!

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The funny part is that some people actually think another union would mke their lives better. It's like those defense mechanisms we learn about in flight school.

I wonder if your lack of maturity is reflected by your "instant" thought that the poster, to which you are responding, is ignorant and/or stupid.

A mature person, on the other hand, likely would say to themselves, well, this is a thinking adult. "Why would they think losing ALPA and taking on another union would make a difference? What am I not seeing?"

Perhaps the "award" is conditioned on acceptance by the east pilot group, the west pilot group and ALPA. Would breaking two of the three scuttle the "award"? A different union, to which you would become a member, might structure a list differently, perhaps by DOH or some other format, like stapling.

This is simply a roll-call vote over a senatorial vote. It will be democracy in its purest form.

The east pilots bent over backwards for the west pilots, giving away(not ceding but gifting) profit-sharing and demurring on non-rev DOH. They have even given up (albeit with much grumbling) the completely safe checklist and incorporated the much less safe, "flows", into their cockpit duties.

There was a time for compromise after the "award". That time has passed.

ALPA has a choice. Dump the "award" completely and keep all of US. Don't dump it, try to modify it, and lose all of US.

OK, lesson over. Time for a "nap" after you read two more pages of "Dick and Jane".
 
What's really amusing is the fellow from Charlotte and his FAQ.

Note the part where he tries to spin the Air Whisky V. Sanderson to suit his needs. Apparently, the part about the obvious DFR suit that the HP folks would win in the event that a new bargaining agent tried to alter the Nicolau terms is not stated clearly enough.
 
The east pilots bent over backwards for the west pilots, giving away(not ceding but gifting) profit-sharing and demurring on non-rev DOH. They have even given up (albeit with much grumbling) the completely safe checklist and incorporated the much less safe, "flows", into their cockpit duties.

An we are supposed to be greatful for this??GMAFB PLEASE!!!

There was a time for compromise after the "award". That time has passed.

Wrong, AGAIN!! there was a time PRIOR TO THE ARBITRATION not after. You got nothing to deal with so why should we. Talk about be beating a dead horse...

ALPA has a choice. Dump the "award" completely and keep all of US. Don't dump it, try to modify it, and lose all of US.

EXTORTION, EXTORTION, EXTORTION. Stop talking about doing it and just do it already. You won't get close to the required votes to remove ALPA from the property. The top line line holding east pilots are going to continue down this path of destruction and sacrifice pay and benefits for a few furloughees?? Geat real man, you're making yourselves look stupid!!

OK, lesson over. Time for a "nap" after you read two more pages of "Dick and Jane".

The above quote more insults about age I see! Really is that the best you can do?? You are embarrassing your entire pilot group.
 
I wonder if your lack of maturity is reflected by your "instant" thought that the poster, to which you are responding, is ignorant and/or stupid.
Gosh, you've insulted me and made me cry. Don't you feel bad now?

I've been an ALPA member at three different carriers, a Teamster, and an APA member. I guess I just don't know anything about pilots' unions. Tell you what: don't take my word for it. Go ahead and dump ALPA and tell me afterword how much it benefitted you. We'll see who's more mature then.
 
The above quote more insults about age I see! Really is that the best you can do?? You are embarrassing your entire pilot group.

Would you please learn how to reply to posts? Most any third grader knows how to do this, are you somewhat, um, challenged?

It appears you are replying to a third party. In fact, those of us with the maturity to understand, um, desperate behavior, see in your haste that you tried a knee-jerk reply, then forgot to add something, throwing it together anyway, much like a Tempe project, hoping nobody would notice.

With experience comes seniority which is a sign of maturity.

From acorns grow mighty oaks. Try to not be a pit.
 
Go ahead and dump ALPA and tell me afterword how much it benefitted you. We'll see who's more mature then.


Most definately works for me. We'll let you know how it all works out.

"We'll see who's more mature then.".....Ummm...do we need notes from our mom's to displace an utterly corrupt, and hopelessly non-functional "union" association?. All you seem to offer is some dismal notion that doing such cannot be, in ANY wise,...ANY improvement? :lol:

I'm completely all ears as to how, in any way...things could actually now be any worse than they are?
 
I'm completely all ears as to how, in any way...things could actually now be any worse than they are?

Well we could be furloughing again.
We could have another terrorist attack using aviation interests again.
We could be on the doorstep of declaring bankruptcy next month.

There is a lot of things that could be worse than our current pilot group standoff.
 
Somewhat off subject, I heard a rumor that Dave Odell has left AWA for FedX. Can anyone verify this?
 
Odell has definitely not left. There's also no "QT" on his line which there would be if he'd given notice. This rumor seems to surface as often as Nigerian princes wanting to send you money for safe keeping.
 
The above quote more insults about age I see! Really is that the best you can do?? You are embarrassing your entire pilot group.


We work for 12% less than you do and pay more for benefits than you do. We gave up 40% of our profit sharing to give you an equal share.

You're darn tootin you should be grateful.

A320 Driver :down:
 

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