Cabin Service - Miami

[FA Mikey]

Contact your local USDA office and they will confirm.

Just because you have not seen or nor worked under it does not mean it does not exist.

Why don't you tell me what happens to trash from an international flight?

[post="275537"][/post]​

I know it doesn't exist. You cannot quote it. If it did you would rub my face in it. Face it you are wrong.

International trash is incinerated. Regulations require a special covered garbage can for all trash removed from an international arrival.

 

[700UW]

It does exist, go ask the person in charge of cabin service at your base or the station manager.

I have read the one between US and USDA in CLT as I worked under it.

Each trash bag is double bagged and placed in a leak proof container, where then it is either steamed or incinerated, depends on how the caterer is setup.

What happens if any International trash leaks into a galley?

Or what happens if any international trash falls onto the ramp?

 

[operaations]

Has anyone else had as much trouble with cabin service in MIA as I have. It seems as though no planes gets cleaned or replenished when they pass thru MIA. Thank god for the outstations.

[post="262942"][/post]​

Miami

I am not familiar with cabins service in MIA but here in DFW the job of cleaning the plane is that of Fleet Service. The same men and women who are on the ramp when it is 105 out side the same men and women that bring in the plane....load and unload the bags...the same men and women that perform the security checks...and the same men and women that push back the plane and yes they must clean it also. Maybe a little help from passenger service...flight attendants and maybe the cockpit. I bet if we all pitched in we may be able to get a clean plane as well as the correct bags on the correct flight and an on time dept.

pull together win together

 

[FA Mikey]

It does exist, go ask the person in charge of cabin service at your base or the station manager.

I have read the one between US and USDA in CLT as I worked under it.

Each trash bag is double bagged and placed in a leak proof container, where then it is either steamed or incinerated, depends on how the caterer is setup.

What happens if any International trash leaks into a galley?

Or what happens if any international trash falls onto the ramp?

[post="275541"][/post]​

I dont have to ask anyone. I already know you are wrong and you cannot post anything to prove you are right. Sorry man let it go or prove me wrong.

 

[FA Mikey]

Miami

I am not familiar with cabins service in MIA but here in DFW the job of cleaning the plane is that of Fleet Service. The same men and women who are on the ramp when it is 105 out side the same men and women that bring in the plane....load and unload the bags...the same men and women that perform the security checks...and the same men and women that push back the plane and yes they must clean it also. Maybe a little help from passenger service...flight attendants and maybe the cockpit. I bet if we all pitched in we may be able to get a clean plane as well as the correct bags on the correct flight and an on time dept.

pull together win together

[post="275542"][/post]​

Its the same here. Fleet service, just that cabin service drives in truck from gate to gate and still cannot do the job even 1/2 way. We cannot pitch in, its there work and they will file a grievance against it. On flts less than 1500 miles the f/as clean the planes. Thats a large % of the flights in and out of DFW.

 

[operaations]

Its the same here. Fleet service, just that cabin service drives in truck from gate to gate and still cannot do the job even 1/2 way. We cannot pitch in, its there work and they will file a grievance against it. On flts less than 1500 miles the f/as clean the planes. Thats a large % of the flights in and out of DFW.

[post="275546"][/post]​

than why dont you suggest that you be able to help. bring it up with the union and or unions

 

[700UW]

The agreements are between the airline and the USDA locally, they are not available online, like I said go ask your station director or the person in charge of cabin service, it is called a compliance agreement.

No wonder why everyone on the US board dislikes you.

USDA Information

Here is an exceprt:

Follow these steps when supervising the landing, collection,
transportation, heating (sterilization) or incineration, and disposing of
regulated garbage:
1. Require advance notification of the landing of regulated garbage.
2. Allow the landing of regulated garbage only under the supervision of a CBP Agriculture Specialist or a trained employee of an establishment that is under compliance.
3. Confirm that covered, regulated garbage is in tight, leakproof containers.
4. Verify that if the regulated garbage is to be moved, it is transported only by a cartage firm under compliance agreement. In addition, the heating (sterilization) or incinerating must be under a compliance agreement.
5. Require that the garbage either be incinerated to ash or heated to an internal temperature of 212ºF for at least 30 minutes. Again, the facility heating or incinerating the regulated garbage must be under a compliance agreement.
6. Confirm that sterilized garbage is buried in a landfill.

Compliance Agreement Information

Purpose
PPQ Form 519, Compliance Agreement, provides a signed, written agreement with shippers, dealers, carriers, garbage handlers and processors to indicate their understanding of methods, conditions, and procedures necessary for compliance with regulations. PPQ Form 519 has a variety of uses in both domestic and foreign quarantine programs, and is used to formalize agreements with airline caterers,
both maritime and airport garbage haulers, and airport garbage processors. The PPQ Form 519 is also used to submit as evidence for a violation case.
Instructions
Review compliance agreements at least annually, but preferably twice a year. Amend compliance agreements as appropriate. If the establishment fails to abide by the conditions of the agreement, then the CBP officer responsible for supervising the agreement may cancel that agreement orally or in writing. However, never cancel an agreement made with an establishment that handles regulated garbage. These compliance agreements may only be cancelled at the
Deputy Administrator’s level.

Decatering of Aircraft
Decatering is the process of removing all garbage from the aircraft.
Require that the garbage be removed by a firm under compliance agreement or under direct CBP supervision. The firm undercompliance agreement must meet the following conditions:
1. Meet aircraft on arrival.
2. Remove garbage from aircraft in tight, enclosed (covered), nonleaking containers to an approved facility.
3. Ensure that meals and food items are not misappropriated.
Other requirements are outlined by the compliance agreement with local CBP.
4. Using an approved method, dispose of any gross waste that was collected.

 

[FA Mikey]

than why dont you suggest that you be able to help. bring it up with the union and or unions

[post="275547"][/post]​

Would help if they did the job they were hired to do. There is no reason they should ever be able to not show for a flight. There is no reason the planes look like they do. Lavs not stocked with soap and hand towels, service kit never changed and planes that look no better after cabin service than before. I have a personal relationship with the hotshots because I am always calling for the missing supplies.

What is sad that in every central american country we get 10 times the job in 1/8 the time.

 

[FA Mikey]

The agreements are between the airline and the USDA locally, they are not available online, like I said go ask your station director or the person in charge of cabin service, it is called a compliance agreement.

No wonder why everyone on the US board dislikes you.

[post="275548"][/post]​

Wow if that mattered to be I would be hurt right now.

USDA Information

Here is an exceprt:

Follow these steps when supervising the landing, collection,
transportation, heating (sterilization) or incineration, and disposing of
regulated garbage:
1. Require advance notification of the landing of regulated garbage.
2. Allow the landing of regulated garbage only under the supervision of a CBP Agriculture Specialist or a trained employee of an establishment that is under compliance.
3. Confirm that covered, regulated garbage is in tight, leakproof containers.
4. Verify that if the regulated garbage is to be moved, it is transported only by a cartage firm under compliance agreement. In addition, the heating (sterilization) or incinerating must be under a compliance agreement.
5. Require that the garbage either be incinerated to ash or heated to an internal temperature of 212ºF for at least 30 minutes. Again, the facility heating or incinerating the regulated garbage must be under a compliance agreement.
6. Confirm that sterilized garbage is buried in a landfill.

Compliance Agreement Information

Purpose
PPQ Form 519, Compliance Agreement, provides a signed, written agreement with shippers, dealers, carriers, garbage handlers and processors to indicate their understanding of methods, conditions, and procedures necessary for compliance with regulations. PPQ Form 519 has a variety of uses in both domestic and foreign quarantine programs, and is used to formalize agreements with airline caterers,
both maritime and airport garbage haulers, and airport garbage processors. The PPQ Form 519 is also used to submit as evidence for a violation case.
Instructions
Review compliance agreements at least annually, but preferably twice a year. Amend compliance agreements as appropriate. If the establishment fails to abide by the conditions of the agreement, then the CBP officer responsible for supervising the agreement may cancel that agreement orally or in writing. However, never cancel an agreement made with an establishment that handles regulated garbage. These compliance agreements may only be cancelled at the
Deputy Administrator’s level.

Decatering of Aircraft
Decatering is the process of removing all garbage from the aircraft.
Require that the garbage be removed by a firm under compliance agreement or under direct CBP supervision. The firm undercompliance agreement must meet the following conditions:
1. Meet aircraft on arrival.
2. Remove garbage from aircraft in tight, enclosed (covered), nonleaking containers to an approved facility.
3. Ensure that meals and food items are not misappropriated.
Other requirements are outlined by the compliance agreement with local CBP.
4. Using an approved method, dispose of any gross waste that was collected.

[post="275548"][/post]​

Well thanks for proving me right. Skychefs our catering company is the one who removes the catering and the garbage as stated above in the guidelines.

 

[700UW]

It does not say the catering company removes all trash from an airplane.

I worked International for 10 years in CLT and US Airways own Utility removed the trash and its own caterers took the food of the plane and recatered. And now since the cleaning is vendored out Jetstream who cleans the plane removes the trash.

But hey what do I know I only did the job.

 

[operaations]

Would help if they did the job they were hired to do. There is no reason they should ever be able to not show for a flight. There is no reason the planes look like they do. Lavs not stocked with soap and hand towels, service kit never changed and planes that look no better after cabin service than before. I have a personal relationship with the hotshots because I am always calling for the missing supplies.

What is sad that in every central american country we get 10 times the job in 1/8 the time.

[post="275549"][/post]​

Like I said be part of the solution not part of the problem. What if they need to wait for late arriving bags from a different flight. Or a security check is needed. Or the plane is late inbound so they need to bust ass to get it out on time. The main priority is precious cargo and bags. It all cuts into time. There is where maybe you and the flight attendants can pitch in. I do not know how many times I have heard a complaint that the fleet service clerks need to clean around some of the flight attendant that are sitting in first class reading or eating while the fleet service has to clean around them.

please be part of the solution not the problem. Offer suggestions not just complaints. My suggestion is have everyone helping out on the grouund.

 

[FA Mikey]

Decatering is the process of removing all garbage from the aircraft.
Require that the garbage be removed by a firm under compliance agreement or under direct CBP supervision. The firm undercompliance agreement must meet the following conditions:
1. Meet aircraft on arrival.
2. Remove garbage from aircraft in tight, enclosed (covered), nonleaking containers to an approved facility.
3. Ensure that meals and food items are not misappropriated.
Other requirements are outlined by the compliance agreement with local CBP.
4. Using an approved method, dispose of any gross waste that was collected.

We call them skychefs. Any company can remove following these guide lines

 

[FA Mikey]

Like I said be part of the solution not part of the problem. What if they need to wait for late arriving bags from a different flight. Or a security check is needed. Or the plane is late inbound so they need to bust ass to get it out on time. The main priority is precious cargo and bags. It all cuts into time. There is where maybe you and the flight attendants can pitch in. I do not know how many times I have heard a complaint that the fleet service clerks need to clean around some of the flight attendant that are sitting in first class reading or eating while the fleet service has to clean around them.

please be part of the solution not the problem. Offer suggestions not just complaints. My suggestion is have everyone helping out on the grouund.

[post="275554"][/post]​

They dont wait for late arriving bags, they are a group from fleet service who do nothing but clean planes. They dont touch bags cargo or mail.

Security is not done by fleet service, AA has a separate group of people who do that as well.

As far as flight attendants they are a sad group that whines when they have to move so cabin service can do there so called cleaning. But I have told crew chiefs no need to ask the crew to move. If they dont skip over the seat and the person sitting there will be responceable to clean the seat back pocket the tray table and any trash on the floor. I found if you say that loud enough, everyone moves for the cleaners here and outside the US.

 

[jimntx]

It does not say the catering company removes all trash from an airplane.

I worked International for 10 years in CLT and US Airways own Utility removed the trash and its own caterers took the food of the plane and recatered. And now since the cleaning is vendored out Jetstream who cleans the plane removes the trash.

But hey what do I know I only did the job.

[post="275553"][/post]​

The way it was and is done at US Airways is not proof that way is the law. Go back and read what you posted from the regulations. First off, it addresses only international flights. Second, it says that trash will be removed and incinerated. It does NOT state who will do the removing. It also does NOT state that the trash can not be transported on the same vehicle as the food carts.

Maybe US Airways wasn't willing to pay the caterer to remove the trash--yes, it is an extra charge. The caterer doesn't breathe unless the airline pays for the motion required. And, since they were paying you to clean the plane anyway, they decided to have you remove the trash and just TOLD you that it was a USDA regulation.

The issue is not how the trash is handled. The issue is who handles it. There is nothing in what you posted that specifies who does it. Only that it will be done in a certain manner.