Certificates Sep 27th?

[ussnark]

I'll bet that approximately 7 to 8 percent of the West Captains and FO's will go East because they commute or live out there. By the same token, I'll bet there is a like number (not percentage) of East pilots that live on the West coast that will change domiciles for quality of life.

Since you apparently have no prior experience at mergers or did not learn anything if you did, I'll take your bet, with the caveat that no more than 7% Capts. and FOs go east. (Can I double down?)

Also, why would a east pilot go to PHX to lose years, if not decades, of seniority in the process?

Parker is holding your money hostage, and we as a group can convince him to pony up the $$. What say you? Or are you still going to expend valuable time and money trying to de-certify ALPA?

OK sport.

East pilots have a contract to 09. West dudes are in Sec. 6. Parker is holding "your" money, not east money, hostage. Ya got the shoe on the wrong foot.

Tell you what. Drop the "award" and the east pilots "might" rethink dropping ALPA.

<thinking for 0.34 seconds>

Naw, just thought it through. ALPA is gone. (I've had ten years to experience the indignities and outright scams perpetuated on the US pilots by ALPA).

 

[nostradamus]

I second that. Please oh please gurus on Rio Salado. Please don't stick us with NWA. Honestly I would be surprised to see our operation divided and sent to two different legacies. I believe it would be more likely that only one airline would merge with our operation and the excess would be parked and furloughed. That would help eliminate the excess capacity in the domestic market that the airline analysts have been citing as a systemic problem within this airline industry. I hope I'm wrong.....

exB717 quote July 9th

"If your extortion works forcing the West to give concessions I can assure you there will not be closure. Drop the suit, accept the Nicolau list, and enter into negotiations with us through the JNC as equals and then we'll both get closure."


AWA pilots thought process. "Be reasonable sign on with us guys so we can furlough you during the next merger."

You are a complete imbecile.

 

[Hawkhunter]

exB717 quote July 9th

"If your extortion works forcing the West to give concessions I can assure you there will not be closure. Drop the suit, accept the Nicolau list, and enter into negotiations with us through the JNC as equals and then we'll both get closure."

Who gives a rats a$$ if there is closure. When will you idiots see that we have nothing to lose. We dont care if we keep our current contract. We would rather operate seperately. Get off your high horse pal we dont respond well to threats. We will never accept your windfall one way or another. Closure this.

 

[N924PS]

That may be valid comparing year over year but I think the trend looking back over many years would probably show something different. Here is an interesting tidbit out of that article you cited though:

"A big drag on airline stocks and earnings projections has been the concern that too much capacity or too little demand was holding down fares. That's good for consumers, but not so good for airline earnings."

I guess I still don't understand why the industry says it has excess capacity.

Would the demand be absent, if the fares were raised say, another 10 bucks?

 

[b737fo]

I guess I still don't understand why the industry says it has excess capacity.

Would the demand be absent, if the fares were raised say, another 10 bucks?

There is a tipping point in which there will be less travelers for a given fair. Many people have an income that only allows such much money to go see grandma or maybe check out Disney World with the kids. A twenty dollar fare increase each way would add up fast for a family of four or five. Ten dollars doesn't sound like it would be asking a lot but then again my job is at the pointy end of the jet, not working in yield management.

 

[767jetz]

it seems you like to stir the pot on other boards as well.

Example?? :huh:

Do you think we care at all what you think?

No, I don't. Does it matter? This is a public message board. Everyone is entitled to share their ideas and thoughts. Even you. B)

Did you ever ask us what we think of UAL pukes?

No, I didn't. Much like you, I don't care. But trust me on this... there have been plenty of you guys over the years who have voiced your opinions on this forum without being asked. As I said, everyone's entitled.

Just go away tweeb.

No, I don't think I will. Thanks for the suggestion though. 😉

I guess everyone who disagrees with your point of view, is labeled as a "tweeb" by you. It's that self-righteous attitude of yours that has gotten your group in it's current situation.