CLT Bag Room Conditions ..REALLY Unsafe?

[signals]

That's right, get the Feds involved, because history shows they'll fix the problem. Especially when you waste their time on such nonsense. More than likely the workers are aware of any problems and can work around them. OSHA would not be able to do anything, because it is a temporary inconvenience not a daily work condition.

OSHA can't fix a common sense problem 🙄

 

[SparrowHawk]

That's right, get the Feds involved, because history shows they'll fix the problem. Especially when you waste their time on such nonsense. More than likely the workers are aware of any problems and can work around them. OSHA would not be able to do anything, because it is a temporary inconvenience not a daily work condition.

OSHA can't fix a common sense problem 🙄

Look the Feds are as useless as boobs on a bull. We know that. If they launch an investigation and men and women of goodwill who support treating folks as human beings then you are in the Court of Public Opinion and you are now equal to your adversary.

Shining the light via the media and embarrassing those responsible is the goal. OSHA is merely a vehicle.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Is safety first?

 

[necigrad]

Good God people. This is a TEMPORARY situation, and not intentional. As the other rampers have said, this happens. In LAS we had a full week with a conveyor system to rebuild the bagroom carousel. It should be perfectly safe as long as things are adjusted to accommodate. No reason to start screaming fire.

 

[Art at ISP]

Necigrad,

I agree it is most likely a temporary situation, however, I have little if any confidence will make the necessary accommodations. They have been working short staffed for quite a while, and I imagine that the lack of changes to accommodate this problem is what prompted some people to bring it to our attention.

That said,this thread was about a specific issue that we were asked to bring to everyone's attention here. It was not intended that it denigrate into a pissing contest between two or three individuals as it has....further proof that most here are content to sit back and argue rather than spend that energy trying to solve those issues that they have the power to affect....sad.....

 

[ChockJockey]

That said,this thread was about a specific issue that we were asked to bring to everyone's attention here. It was not intended that it denigrate into a pissing contest between two or three individuals as it has....further proof that most here are content to sit back and argue rather than spend that energy trying to solve those issues that they have the power to affect....sad.....

And so how are we supposed to solve an issue when we have no details about what is happening down there? Which belt is broken in which work area? How long has it been broken? What are they doing for a workaround in the interim? How is this workaround "especially dangerous"? It's not enough to go on to say "a belt is broken" and "there are bags being placed on the ground" because things like this are not uncommon or inherently dangerous.

I'd like nothing more than to be able to help but this simply can't be done without the details.

 

[Art at ISP]

From what I heard, CJ, nothing was being done. They were being forced to put bags in each others' way from what I was told, but being neither a ramper or having experience with the process I just have to take the word of those who told me about it, both of whom I trust implicitly and have no hidden agendae..

I think their point is that while the belt situation is indeed temporary, the workaround being given them is not as safe as it could be, and may be causing additional issues and concerns. Even with two working belts, one is led to believe they have insufficient manpower to handle the workload, which results in more injuries and fatigue, and more missed bags than necessary.

I hope they eventually get it repaired and get the level of staffing their workload apparently justifies.

 

[UPNAWAY]

I have little if any confidence will make the necessary accommodations.

Art are you for real? Really a passenger and not some plant? I am pretty sure US Airways has spent more then any other airline in the last few years on baggage infrastructure. You a pathetic troll!

 

[Art at ISP]

Art are you for real? Really a passenger and not some plant? I am pretty sure US Airways has spent more then any other airline in the last few years on baggage infrastructure. You a pathetic troll!

Nice mature post, E. Not a troll, just possibly bringing to light things you guys don't want to come out.. Apparently you're still playing catch up and I am told you are short staffed most if not all of the time.

Enjoy the Kool Aid.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Art are you for real? Really a passenger and not some plant? I am pretty sure US Airways has spent more then any other airline in the last few years on baggage infrastructure. You a pathetic troll!

Yes we are for real and no we won't be going anytime soon. "We" lived through the Christmas Meltdown, in fact I flew back from AMS the day the poop was all over the fan. The F/A's on my flight were in tears fearing this was the end of the line for their jobs and US. So if I seem particularly strident there is a reason.

I've seen US Management try to blame the union calling it an illegal job action only to be contradicted by the DOT. In that case US Management were documented liars and tried to blame decent hard working people for their failings. Every bag belt break, coupled with short staff is another potential Christmas Meltdown, so you'll pardon me for my somewhat knee jerk reaction when I hear stuff like this.

For the reasons stated above any time something like this happens it needs to be brought to the attention of the public in order to embarass US Airways into doing the right thing as we know from past history they don't always do the right thing. Government Agencies need to be called if for no other reason that to keep US awake and alert. Safety is either a priority or it isn't and the public has a right to know.

So if it's all the same to you I'll just keep trolling along singing my song.

 

[ChockJockey]

Every bag belt break, coupled with short staff is another potential Christmas Meltdown

Only in the same sense that every time an A320 takes off it's another potential Flight 1549.

For the reasons stated above any time something like this happens it needs to be brought to the attention of the public in order to embarass US Airways into doing the right thing as we know from past history they don't always do the right thing. Government Agencies need to be called if for no other reason that to keep US awake and alert. Safety is either a priority or it isn't and the public has a right to know.

Quixotic.

 

[cynic]

Good God people. This is a TEMPORARY situation, and not intentional. As the other rampers have said, this happens. In LAS we had a full week with a conveyor system to rebuild the bagroom carousel. It should be perfectly safe as long as things are adjusted to accommodate. No reason to start screaming fire.

Certain members here take just about any and every opportunity to bash US Airways. The sad thing is, they wouldn't care about any of it if the company kissed their a** a little more and handed them a few more freebies.

 

[tadjr]

Have you checked your Ilearns recently? They just popped in a new safety reporting lesson this week in ours. May be a good time to take notes and follow up with the Ilearn lesson if its that bad. You can do it online or written if you want to remain anonymous.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Certain members here take just about any and every opportunity to bash US Airways. The sad thing is, they wouldn't care about any of it if the company kissed their a** a little more and handed them a few more freebies.

You know when I was a CP my ass got kissed pretty well by all of the Star Alliance Partners. As for freebies I only recall demanding compensation ONE time. They agreed and I got it. Actually strike that it was twice in ten years. The way it usually went is I would write/call regarding an incident that I felt was sloppy customer service or in a few cases rude agents. Few as in under 5. I never asked for a dime. However every time I wrote I got some kind of voucher so I accepted them.

There was one time I refused compensation. US had this huge SNAFU in CLT over weather and I wasn't entitled to any compensation. I was a distressed passenger like several hundred others. At the time US was knocking loudly on heaven's Door and I went and got accommodated for the early flight and she goes to hand me a room voucher. I asked why? She replied, because you're a Chairman's" I hated the hotel and the company would pick up the room so I told her "No thanks". I just figured US needed the money more than my company did.

When the new regime took over you could just "feel" a different approach towards customers in general, elites in particular. I've had very few "beefs" with front line US. The Sr Management however is an entirely different story. I don't respect them, like them, trust them and I work backwards from the perspective that every word out of their mouths is a lie until I can prove otherwise. I defend them when I think they're right which sadly isn't often enough.

 

[700UW]

Art and Sparrow.

I would like to know where the outcry was when fresh out of the first Chapter 11 and US outsourced our work, which we took them to court and won, and then wone again in arbitration?

Where were you all during the first chapter 11 when we were threatened after all ready giving concessions with the company closing the door by Dr (bonehead) Bronner and we had to take more concessions?

Where were you during the second chapter 11 when we all got hosed very bad?

Those issues were just a we bit more important than a bad belt broken.