CLT Bag Room Conditions ..REALLY Unsafe?

[Harry Callahan]

BINGO...we have a winner!!!! If you only knew the true condition of the airport you would be amazed..Why do you think CLT was not dehubbed, because it is so cheap to operate out of here, they use bandages instead of doing major surgery to repair failures..Don't blame the jetway/conveyor crews, they work with the tools they are given, airport mgmnt is only concerned with keeping the cost to operate down, that is their only mission...

I can tell you these city guys are top of the line. They do a great job with what they have. And just think the DNC is right around the corner. Jerry Orr needs to wake up.

 

[Art at ISP]

You really need to get over yourself as does 700. I am not obsessed with US. I also never misrepresented my personal interests. I have happily moved on, but remain interested in some of my friends who still work at US. We still serve a small role in helping distressed customers when US customer relations refuses to help.

Your friend Sparrow and I are two very different people. You may be right in that I probably overstayed my welcome, but for me the last straw was outright lies by the sand castle.

The only reason I started this thread is that I was approached by two or more employees who work in CLT and asked to post this information. Apparently things are not going well down in the bag room, and some things appear to be getting worse. We were asked, we looked to verify and when we got corroboration I started the thread. I did someone a favor no more no less.

At the end ofthe day perhaps I should know better than to try to do anything to help anymore. The animosity and anger among all concerned parties is just over the edge. I will sit back and watch the train go right off the bridge.

As for our friend 700, you really need to give it a rest.

 

[QA4Jet-A]

Look the Feds are as useless as boobs on a bull. We know that. If they launch an investigation and men and women of goodwill who support treating folks as human beings then you are in the Court of Public Opinion and you are now equal to your adversary.

Shining the light via the media and embarrassing those responsible is the goal. OSHA is merely a vehicle.

Then why did you launch into a tirade about reporting this to OSHA? Are you that bored?

 

[ChockJockey]

The only reason I started this thread is that I was approached by two or more employees who work in CLT and asked to post this information. Apparently things are not going well down in the bag room, and some things appear to be getting worse. We were asked, we looked to verify and when we got corroboration I started the thread. I did someone a favor no more no less.

Well I for one really appreciate it. I'm sure this thread alone has made the CLT bag room like tons safer. Somehow. 🙄

I hope you enjoy not flying on US as much as we enjoy you not flying on US.

 

[700UW]

Dont tell us you and your group are pro-employee when you sat back on your duff and supported the company 100% when we as employees were taking it in the shorts.

Now the only reason you posted this is cause you wanted to make US look bad, we all know it.

They took away your perks, after they blew smoke up your rear end and then threw you away like a used kleenex.

You went to Res and gave out chocolates, nice gesture, but did it save anyone's job?

Gee when 46% of the maintenance workforce was laid-off in 2005, you didnt give any of them chocolate.

I just tell it like it is and sometimes the truth hurts.

 

[Art at ISP]

Well I for one really appreciate it. I'm sure this thread alone has made the CLT bag room like tons safer. Somehow. 🙄

I hope you enjoy not flying on US as much as we enjoy you not flying on US.

Honestly, Chock, if it is safer, then somehow this thread did what it was intended to do.

And I am happier flying airlines who actually appreciate my business and that of almost 200 other high yield flyers I took with me.

As for 700, I am no fan of management, but neither do I support unions who are more intent on making money and protecting bad employees than they are at realizing they need to change to reflect the new realities of the current times...but I won't argue that here.

US employees in fact got shafted, but they were apparently misled into it...what's amazing is all the rancor on this board is pitting work group against work group when their anger should be pointed solely at management. We had nothing to do with that..

 

[700UW]

Guess you dont understand that unions are NON-PROFIT organizations, and go ask WN how they view unions, highest paid employees in the industry, most profitable airline on a consistent basis over 30 years and the highest percentage of unionized workers in the airline industry.

Guess you dont understand that every single penny a union spends has to be reported to the department of labor and it is public record, can you say the same about business?

Also ask the fleet and customer service what US did to them in 1992 when they were non-union.

Since you never worked in the industry, you have no clue why it is one of the highest unionized industries in the country.

Do you realize that airline employees have the second highest rate of occupational injuries out of any job?

Personally I blew out my knee and had to have Six Surgeries to fix it, and if I wasnt in a union they would have let me go while I was rehabbing and getting back to strength.

And you fall into believing whats not true, plenty of bad employees who are unionized get fired, stop drinking the koolade.

 

[InternationalDan]

They have bags all over the bagroom, and the carts are so close together...I understand when the belt will stop working and then bags go all over the place....I do hope it gets better in the bagroom....


Dan

 

[SparrowHawk]

Ever notice when one turns on a light in dark room, the cockroaches will scurry?

Your cockroach club (which US management got you to change to FFOCUS when they co-opted your group and neutered you) was aptly named the first time.

You may not like my opinion, but you are foolish to describe me as clueless. As to what you do, or what you've done, your pal manages to cram that stupid candy story into almost every thread on the board for the last six or seven years. Yes that is an exaggeration, but we know it by heart by now.

And if you truly could care less what I think, you wouldn't address me or my comments. I've noticed over the years, you and your BFF are incredibly thin skinned whenever anyone calls you on your hypocrisy. You never address issues which are raised, you only attack the poster. You both have an unhealthy obsession with US Airways and are self appointed experts on all matters airline even though you have zero experience working "in the arena" as your pal loves to say.

You sir, are clueless about the CLT bag room. You are posting what someone else alleged to you. Is that responsible or fair? Anyone who has ever read my posts on here knows that I am in no way an apologist or defender of US management, past or present. I've been consistent, straight talking, and have supported the long suffering employees of US long before the cockroach club. You just don't like posts that highlight the manipulative and intellectually dishonest nature of your statements.

It's fine to post in your own self interest. Just don't try to color it as being for the employees and totally altruistic in nature. You guys knifed the employees many times in the past and would do so again if management was coddling you again like they did when they outfoxed you. Many of the old regulars gave up on this board during the last several years, and the more recent readers don't know the background, but I was here, I read the things you all wrote, and I remember.

The plane has left the runway and you were left behind. Life goes on. Get over yourselves and lose this obsession with US. They have shown they don't care what you think. You have for the most part boycotted flying on US. Yet you take every opportunity for cheap shots at US with your passive aggressive posts about "supporting the employees". I call BS. :blink:

And the odd thing is, I actually think you are probably a decent guy (when you avoid self aggrandizement and playing martyr). I just don't agree with your tactics.

Here's a news flash, I didn't give a shite about you in 2005 and nothing has changed in 2011. I've observed you species in its natural habitat for for nearly 40 years of work life and I'm unimpressed. Frankly 700UW has the street cred to offer his opinions as he was there in the arena fighting. He sat face to face with Jerry Glass and where were you? On US Aviation attacking him and FFOCUS is where you were, not adding an ounce of value or contributing in any way.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

That quote from Teddy Roosevelt defines 700UW, Art, Myself and many others. However it does NOT describe you. We were "In the Arena" while you sat and threw stones and pointed out our failings and short comings as you perceive them. It's kind of sad how little has changed. Back in the days of the BK's we represented Frequent Flyers, NOT the ALPA, IAM, AFA or any other group with representation. We wanted a voice for customers. We worked at it. We were the FIRST group in US Aviation history to gain an audience at the Sr VP level at a major Airline while your peckerwood arse sat picking every little thing we did apart.

Did I get it right all the time? Certainly not! I tried to make a difference and we had members wanting us to denounce the unions. I at least kept us neutral or paying lip service at least. You weren't there "In the Arena", We Were and that makes all the difference. It's easy peezy japaneasy to sit and insult and criticize. C'mon out and join us on the battle field.

 

[ChockJockey]

Honestly, Chock, if it is safer, then somehow this thread did what it was intended to do.

Right, because the ramp duty manager in CLT always checks these boards before he does the staffing allocations.

And I am happier flying airlines who actually appreciate my business and that of almost 200 other high yield flyers I took with me.

And yet you're also happier butting in to "help" with airlines you don't fly on and don't work for, and for what reason? Sheer, disinterested, unbiased and selfless love and altruism? Thanks, but no thanks. So you're the pied piper of FF's are you? I think you vastly overestimate your own influence and self-importance (see also: egotism). How it must bother you to see US make profits without your business...

 

[700UW]

Nice quote, I take that as a compliment.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Nice quote, I take that as a compliment.

Well it was meant that way. It's super easy for twits like Dilligas to point out everything you or someone did wrong. It's quite another thing to go eyeball to eyeball with a top Union Busting Attorney like Jerry Glass. You did that and if that's not "In The Arena" then brother I don't know what is.

There are days when I don't think we could agree on anything other than the sky being blue. That doesn't mean I don't respect where you're coming from. You're a die hard Unionist and I respect that. Being an equally die hard Libertarian it stands to reason we will disagree and I think we've shown that we can disagree without being disagreeable.

Now if we just teach that to the pilots we'd really be doing something.

 

[700UW]

Too bad your an Eagles fan, go G I A N T S!!!!

 

[SparrowHawk]

Too bad your an Eagles fan, go G I A N T S!!!!

Yeah well no one is perfect. Besides it's the Vikings and Packers out here

 

[cynic]

Not for self-aggrandizement or to get perks I don't feel we deserve.

Of course not, you feel that you deserve every perk you can imagine.