C'mon Fires!

[rainman]

Hey there, I'm back from my short little stint with the fires. Fun, Fun!!

Lot's of initial attack fires or 60-80 hectare 3 machine fires. Rain had us released but sounds like there are more fires going that'll keep us all going over the next little while anyway. I heard that highland machine that went down was an astar and she flamed out. Not good, but obviousely the pilot did a good job in the landing as no one got hurt.

 

[MagSeal]

I do believe your name is bringing bad luck. 😀

I'm thinking a name more like Flameman or Torchman, might just keep the raindrops away and ensure that everyone flies a ton of hours again and in turn buys new aircraft to replace ones that should have met the scrapyard years ago.

So how about it?

 

[rainman]

Magseal, Not so sure of Flameman as it may lead to some not so desirable abbreviations bot torchman, sure. But hey Rainman's not so bad, rain from the eye in the sky, not rain from clouds.

here's hopin we go to the Yukon next!!, Just need some maps?

 

[downwash]

Have it on pretty good authority that the Astar at Williams Lk. experienced some sort of governor problem. More to come, no doubt. B)

 

[Elvis]

More reasons that Transport Canada adopt a system like the FAA sites where problems are easy to find without needing a access code or waiting two years for a limited report of selected incedents.

:elvis:

 

[jetbox]

I don't know if it's such a good idea for so called "preliminary reports" to be released by the Transportation Safety Board. I know some of you are thinking that the sooner we all know why an accident happened, the sooner we can learn something from it, but no preliminary report will teach us any thing more than what we hear from word of mouth.
You can also bet your -ss that you will not learn any causes from any preliminary report because those investigations are extremely time consuming and thorough especially when someone is hurt or killed. Also, the outcome of what may seem like an open/shut case can change dramatically once all the evidence is examined. The latest issue of "The Maintainer" has a few excellent examples of this.
You can ask for preliminary reports all you want, all you're gonna get out of them is very limited info which we usually find out through word of mouth soon enough anyways!
P.S. When I say word of mouth, I don't mean the news! Those idiots never seem to get it right!!!!

 

[MagSeal]

I'll agree with you on the fact that you may not learn anything from a preliminary report. What it does work for though, is refreshing your memory that things can happen to you. Take for example, a preliminary report suggesting snow ingestion causing a flameout, or a stuck bearpaw causing a rollover...these are things that some guys may need the occasional nudge, reminding them to continue to be vigilant about everything around you. The one crash in Quebec where the mast nut was left off sure could have reminded alot of people to check and double check their work, immediately, not over the next few months through word of mouth.
In my line of work now, it sure can help keeping parts that should be scrapped from ending up back into the system. All I need is a date, make, model and registration, and a quick check of some parts with vague, or questionable removal tags, and I can determine if they should not even be considered for repair or overhaul.
I know that some operators will try and slip accidented parts through the system. But at least with some sort of accident listing, many of those can be stopped before they slip through.

 

[Elvis]

Ditto Magseal!

 

[downwash]

Hear, hear! Bang on, Mag. Simple awareness that certain things have occurred, or that many are occurring is always of value. If it only makes some of us pay that extra bit of attention, or use that extra share of prudence, that's plentyof value.

Certainly, misinformation or presumption of cause can be harmful, and the authorities are wise in not making pronouncements until all the evidence is in and sifted, but the benefits in keeping interested parties fully aware of incidents and established fact are well proven. B)

 

[Elvis]

Jetbox,yes the Maintainer gives excellent reports but they are a selected few and long after the event.

As for relying on word of mouth it depends on who's mouth is talking. If person # 1 tells their information to person # 2 and they in turn tell # 3 and so on ..... by the time it gets back to # 1 it is not reconizable as the same event.


:elvis: :elvis:

 

[MagSeal]

to get back on topic...how are the fires doing out west and closer to the heart of canada (anywhere east of alberta)???

I'm basking in the glory of summer vacation and haven't been checking the news lately (except for my lottery numbers).....I'm afraid when I go back to work, the fires will all just be smouldering piles of has been BC and alberta scrub brush and I'll have missed out on all the fun.

Fly safe everyone.

 

[407 Driver]

Question MAG ....

How does an EC employee diferentiate a holiday from a regular day of work ????

What's the difference ?? 😀 😀

But seroiously now...to check on our fires, just click on The CIFFC Daily Update

 

[MagSeal]

well 407D...it all starts off with the alarm clock. If that things wakes you from your dream, and turns it into a nightmare....you know it's work time.

 

[VERTICAL REF]

Just to clear up any rumours...

The Tundra 212 was shut down and rotors stopped when the refueling problem occured. They had another company ship right there, transfered the rap gear over and were up and running in no time, never skipped a beat! The aircraft will be returned to service.

Well done guys! 🙂

 

[downwash]

Maybe a partial 'well done' guys, but our information is that the fuel cap was removed before the aircraft was bonded to the fuel source - a natural for static generated ignition. Either the individual refueling or the company procedure would be open to criticism if that's the case. 🙁