Combined Merger Route Map
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Looks alot like the old PSA network that merged with US! Ahh what does it look like today?
Will history repeat itself? I hope HP mgt. does not blunder and keep any US mgt
that would be a historical mistake.
Will history repeat itself? I hope HP mgt. does not blunder and keep any US mgt
that would be a historical mistake.
Interesting, but, much of the space in the center would be filled in with routes leading from one hub like CLT, and then onto the other. Use of the CRJ-700/900s and ERJ170/190's would add anywhere from 6 to 12 decent markets in which good E/W connections on the merged carrier could be made. why bother with the heaache that is ORD when you can connect thru PHX or CLT instead...?
Places ike OMA, DSM, OKC, come to mind as likely prospects...
I would expect more "direct" flights bypassing hubs altogether for routes into markets like LAS, DCA, LGA, and so on.
Another thing to consider is how the involvement of Air Canada would influence that map as well.
Anyways, it looks like a much more rational setup than having had two hubs in the same state ever was...
Places ike OMA, DSM, OKC, come to mind as likely prospects...
I would expect more "direct" flights bypassing hubs altogether for routes into markets like LAS, DCA, LGA, and so on.
Another thing to consider is how the involvement of Air Canada would influence that map as well.
Anyways, it looks like a much more rational setup than having had two hubs in the same state ever was...
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Rico said:
IND-CLT-SFO?
IND-PHX-SEA?
See the problem here?
Oh yeah, you can shoot holes in any route structure. Look to everyone's favorite example of "how to do things", Southwest Airlines, and you will see huge market gaps even now as they have established themselves as one of the largest domestic carriers.
Trying to be everything to everyone is a sure way to increase your costs to the point where you are exposed to more focused competition.
The point is to set yourself up, to best take advantage of established and growth markets.
In the United States that is the Southeast, and the Southwest, each of which connects well internationally to points south... Leave what remains to a partner to best cover, providing service without adding much in the way of cost.
IMO I would not discount UAL out of the code share picture, who itself is weak in the Southeast and Southwest. IMo the combo of US/HP is a far better and more profitable domestic alliance partner. Even with the addition of HP, there still remains little overlap.
The "armchair CEO's" on here that theorize that "hurt feelings" are enough for a cash strapped airline like UAL to kill off a profitable alliance (about to become even more useful) need to think again.
Add Air Canada further into the mix and the options increase even moreso. You know they too are getting E-190's this fall and they too plan to expand into the Midwestern US.
Trying to be everything to everyone is a sure way to increase your costs to the point where you are exposed to more focused competition.
The point is to set yourself up, to best take advantage of established and growth markets.
In the United States that is the Southeast, and the Southwest, each of which connects well internationally to points south... Leave what remains to a partner to best cover, providing service without adding much in the way of cost.
IMO I would not discount UAL out of the code share picture, who itself is weak in the Southeast and Southwest. IMo the combo of US/HP is a far better and more profitable domestic alliance partner. Even with the addition of HP, there still remains little overlap.
The "armchair CEO's" on here that theorize that "hurt feelings" are enough for a cash strapped airline like UAL to kill off a profitable alliance (about to become even more useful) need to think again.
Add Air Canada further into the mix and the options increase even moreso. You know they too are getting E-190's this fall and they too plan to expand into the Midwestern US.
libertybell said:
Looks nothing like the PSA-US Air combined map. At the time of the merger, PSA flew as far east as ABQ. America West flies to all the big Northeast cities, and used to be #3 transcon carrier (they carried quite a bit of transcon traffic via their hubs - part of the reason for their transcon experiment - and probably not true today due to the growth of jetBlue and Song).
And for the record... HP already carries decent amounts of traffic via its PHX/LAS hub, like IND-PHX-SEA. jetBlue and Continental carry BUF-NYC-LAX traffic. A little bit of a back haul is not that unusual. Most people don't purchase their tickets on the basis of shortest transit time.
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America West wants to add Hawaii routes by late 2005
PHOENIX - America West Airlines, which is trying to win approval to acquire US Airways Group Inc., expects to begin flying from the U.S. mainland to Hawaii late this year or in early 2006 to serve more vacation areas.
The Tempe, Arizona-based airline already has begun training crews and is awaiting approval from the Federal Aviation Administration to make the flights, America West spokesman Carlo Bertolini said in an interview today.
"We think it's pretty much a natural fit to our existing network," Bertolini said. "We've established a reputation as a leading carrier to some of the best beaches in Mexico, and that association with passengers would make Hawaii an attractive fit for us."
PHOENIX - America West Airlines, which is trying to win approval to acquire US Airways Group Inc., expects to begin flying from the U.S. mainland to Hawaii late this year or in early 2006 to serve more vacation areas.
The Tempe, Arizona-based airline already has begun training crews and is awaiting approval from the Federal Aviation Administration to make the flights, America West spokesman Carlo Bertolini said in an interview today.
"We think it's pretty much a natural fit to our existing network," Bertolini said. "We've established a reputation as a leading carrier to some of the best beaches in Mexico, and that association with passengers would make Hawaii an attractive fit for us."
