Congrats Michael Sam!

[Ms Tree]

You are making the statement that the majority of the state legislatures and governors are against it but the majority of the public is for it. Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
 

What does that tell you?
 

Marriage has ALWAYS been the domain of STATE LAW. 
 
If you want to talk about what government does and does not do let's talk about Arizona having to enforce immigration law because the Federal Government REFUSES to do so. 
 
If you want to talk about the Equal Protection Clause, let's talk about Affirmative Action. 
 
http://www.ncsu.edu/project/oeo-training/aa/goals.htm
When[/size]underutilization[/size] is found,[/size] placement goals should be established[/size] to increase the numbers of minorities and/or women, [/size]as needed[/size].[/size]
 
In other words let's ignore achievement and ability and fill a quota, but let's not call it a quota let's call it a goal.[/size]
 

You mean the courts have imposed what Americans do not want...... again. You mean the courts robbed Americans of the legislative process.......again. You mean the Federal Government has trampled on states' rights on its march to socialization..... again.

Are you even aware of the fact that 1/3 of the population of the US lives in 4 states? Do he math and maybe you will figure it out.

Yes it means that while people may support something that they will not make an effort if it does not have a direct impact on them.

Nearly everything is up to state law but state law still cannot violate the COTUS.

The majority of people do agree with it but that is a separate issue. Courts had to make rulings on civil rights that were against what the public believed. Equal rights are not something to be left up to the will of the people. Would you like to place your rights in the hands of the voters? I'm guessing not.

 

[EastUS1]

Are you even aware of the fact that 1/3 of the population of the US lives in 4 states? Do he math and maybe you will figure it out.

 
It is indeed a disproportionate spread. Note especially the "liberal" bastions of New York and The Peoples' Republik of Kalifornia, from which most all truly virulent insanity springs forth from...not to mention obama's political "home town". How amusing that it's your apparent opinion that such fine states should determine national priorities. What even possibly better measure of morality can be imagined than to take input from small portions of the country that manage to have the highest amounts of people existing and eating purely on the government's whims?..."The kindness of strangers" as Blanche Dubois so well put it...?  "Do he math and maybe you will figure it out." 😉 http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/10/11-states-that-have-more-people-on.html

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Point of order... You're wrong.

States didn't start to get involved in the marriage business until the Civil War years.

Before that, marriage was a matter for the churches or common-law.

As I've said countless times, we need to get back to that.

Gays wanted the government out of their bedrooms, so it's really not much of a stretch to ask the same here.

Were we not talking about the legalities of marriage?
 
I think it was inferred I was speaking from a point in time after marriage laws were establish to the present.
 
 
Since marriage laws were established they have ALWAYS been the domain of STATE LAW. 
 
Is that better?
 
 
I mean I expect comments like that from 700UW or Ms Tree but, coming from you, that is a bit surprising.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Are you even aware of the fact that 1/3 of the population of the US lives in 4 states? Do he math and maybe you will figure it out.

Top 4 states by population California     38,332,521
[SIZE=10.5pt]                                           Texas          26,448,193[/SIZE]
                                           New York     19,651,127
                                           Florida         19,552,860
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]Top 4 states by population (estimated) of illegal immigrants California     2,550,000[/SIZE]
                                                                                              Texas          1,650,000
                                                                                              Florida         825,000
                                                                                              New York     625,000
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]I was not aware of that. I am now. Illegals sure love a large tax base don't they? [/SIZE]
 

Would you like to place your rights in the hands of the voters? I'm guessing not.

Does being taxed to death to support libtard ideals violate civil rights? Just curious. 
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]California passed a version of the "Dream Act" in 2011 to divert taxes to future Democrats. Liberals bragged about their virtue and generosity for spending other people’s money on other countries’ citizens.[/SIZE]
 

Nearly everything is up to state law but state law still cannot violate the COTUS.

[SIZE=10.5pt]Marriage laws never violated COTUS. That is a lie propagated by the left. [/SIZE]
 
http://americamagazine.org/issue/court-and-same-sex-marriage
Marriage is a state law issue; the federal government is not empowered to issue marriage licenses.
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]You keep talking about the 14th Amendment and The Equal Protection Clause. [/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]The point of the Equal Protection Clause was to provide equal rights of protection, equal participation, and equal punishments in a court of law. It was not written so libtards could force their sick agenda on the American citizens.[/SIZE]
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Amendment
The Equal Protection Clause was created largely in response to the lack of equal protection provided by law in states with Black Codes. Under Black Codes, blacks could not sue, give evidence, or be witnesses, and they received harsher degrees of punishment than whites 
[SIZE=10.5pt] [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]I have seen gays use the argument of privileges and immunities. Again that is a lie propagated by the left.[/SIZE]
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Amendment 
[SIZE=10.5pt]All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.[/SIZE]
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
[SIZE=10.5pt]The Privileges or Immunities Clause, which protects the privileges and immunities of national citizenship from interference by the states, was patterned after the Privileges and Immunities Clause of Article IV, which [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]protects the privileges and immunities of state citizenship from interference by other states.[/SIZE]

 

[Ms Tree]

When all else fails change/ignore the issue.

You asked how a majority of the people could support something while a majority of the state's did not. I explained why and you misdirect with some BS about immigration.

SCOTUS addressed the 14th when they struck so you will need to take up your.interpretation of the 14th with them. I heard they are waiting for your call.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Were we not talking about the legalities of marriage?

Is that better?

No, we were talking about a gay guy getting drafted by the NFL. Pay attention.

 

[delldude]

No, we were talking about a gay guy getting drafted by the NFL. Pay attention.

 
When we going have a dyke amazon with no front teeth try out for NFL center?

 

[delldude]

 

ESPN Analyst Jason Whitlock On Michael Sam: ‘I’d Be Very Tempted To Cut The Guy Today’
ESPN analyst Jason Whitlock joined Booger and Rich to discuss Michael Sam’s docuseries about coming out and being drafted in the NFL.
Whitlock said that he feels like Michael Sam is contradicting himself. Sam said that he wants to be viewed as a football player, but now he’s doing a docuseries that’s going to take away from football. He also said he’s a staunch supporter of Sam coming out but right now he feels duped.
“I think it’s very contradictory, and I’m someone who supported Michael Sam and understood the importance of his involvement in professional football; but he has certainly called into question to me everything about him, including what we saw on draft day,” he said. “Everything seems orchestrated now. We didn’t know that there was a documentary TV show already in the process of being filmed and now we do. Now we judge everything in that light and we have to wonder, was it genuine emotion? Or is this a part of a reality TV show?”
 

 
Hasn't even been to camp and we gone Tebow....LOL
 

 

OWN Postpones Michael Sam Docuseries
“After careful consideration and discussion with the St. Louis Rams, the untitled Michael Sam project has been postponed, allowing Michael the best opportunity to achieve his dream of making the team,” said Erik Logan, president of OWN. “OWN is about elevating and empowering people to achieve their best. It’s clear that we, along with the world, recognize the important opportunity that Michael now has in this moment. We will continue to support him in his journey to earn a spot playing for the Rams.”
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/own-postpones-michael-sam-docuseries-705082

 

[Dog Wonder]

When we going have a dyke amazon with no front teeth try out for NFL center?

Lambert already did the no front teeth thing.

 

[xUT]

Point of order... You're wrong.

States didn't start to get involved in the marriage business until the Civil War years.

Before that, marriage was a matter for the churches or common-law.

As I've said countless times, we need to get back to that.

Gays wanted the government out of their bedrooms, so it's really not much of a stretch to ask the same here.

Taxes and corporate/gooberment benefits.
That's the driver.
JMHO, B) xUT

 

[Ms Tree]

That's one of the biggest reasons I want to get married to my wife. Her jobs did not give any type of health insurance. As my spouse she got full coverage.

 

[signals]

That explains why you became the Ms and Mrs!

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

No, we were talking about a gay guy getting drafted by the NFL. Pay attention.

No, we are talking about the media using an athlete to push their gay agenda of normalizing homosexual relationships. Pay attention.

 

[cltrat]

Lambert already did the no front teeth thing.

I'm pretty sure I'd never call him a dyke at least not where he could hear me ...lol

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

That's one of the biggest reasons I want to get married to my wife. Her jobs did not give any type of health insurance. As my spouse she got full coverage.

That is the biggest reason you wanted to get married to your wife?
 
Really?
 
Well now you can divorce her and she can get on Obamacare. I know you libs love your socialized medicine. Now you can be part of the solution!!!!!