Congress Or Chaos May Await Us Airways
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NeedForSpeedNFS
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As per my previous post...........700, does this mean I ACTUALLY added to the topic, and you agree with me?? Not the whole post, of course, just the portion that mentions what you just posted. GOOD DAY!!!!NeedForSpeedNFS said:
PITbull
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usfliboi said:
WHOSE "WE"???????????
Did you take a poll of your own? Is it scientific?
Dec. 13 is the date of the ballot calculation.
usairways_vote_NO
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BoeingBoy said:
Interesting Jim but one question hasn't the status quo been upsetted with the temporary changes already in place, therefore allowing a strike to take place?
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ClueByFour said:
In any argument about anything it would best to leave out any quote by USA320pilot as I don't think there are many if any that believe what he says.
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usfli,
And our senior group in PIT will be in your base before you can wink and stand on your head.....
And our senior group in PIT will be in your base before you can wink and stand on your head.....
usairways_vote_NO
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usfliboi said:
The real reality you need to understand sweets, is theres gonna be life without USAirways very soon.
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usairways_vote_NO said:
USVN,
A "high five" at you!
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BoeingBoy said:
Thanks Jim, and you can dispence with the"all due respect." 320 deserves none. This simple fact remains, and the "law be d....md," if an employee is being told he is going to lose everything he has NOTHING to lose. Look at the IAM. Their very existance is threatened. I don't really think the F/As are losing as much, even with the cuts (after all, they will still have jobs with some benefits..unlike the mechanics.) But I think their PERCEPTION is the same. My theory is there will not be enough time at U for even a presidental act to save the company, much less a court ruling...there just is not enough time. If one major group goes out..all the creditors lose...food for thought. Greeter.
I think the issue of whether it will be legal or not to strike, whether the judge can order US Airways workers to not strike, is irrelevant. Clearly, many people want to strike if their contract is thrown out. The CWA has voted, the AFA is voting, and the IAM's members have always been very likely to tell the company what to do with their jobs.
All of these people seemingly know what the consequences of a strike will be, but that doesn't appear to be an issue. They're saying it's time to take a stand.
While I could be wrong, it's clear to me that if the judge throws out the contracts, there will be a serious disruption to the airline.
If a strike is deemed legal, one or more unions will strike, and others will honor the strike. No one seems to dispute that will result in liquidation.
If a strike is ruled illegal, one or more unions still could call a strike as a way of challenging such a ruling. In the best case, thousands will stop showing up to work, and most of them will probably picket, and the unions' leadership will publicly say there is no organized job action.
Is the judge going to have law enforcement arrest thousands of people for contempt of court? That still doesn't help the airline continue to operate, and the resulting publicity would certainly be enough to drive passengers away, a 1-2 punch that also will result in liquidation.
I understand what USA320Pilot and other optimists think will happen, but I just don't see any possibly good outcome if the judge throws out the contracts. If there's somewhere that my logic breaks down, I'd like someone to tell me. Because USA320Pilot continues to pass up opportunities to comment on it.
All of these people seemingly know what the consequences of a strike will be, but that doesn't appear to be an issue. They're saying it's time to take a stand.
While I could be wrong, it's clear to me that if the judge throws out the contracts, there will be a serious disruption to the airline.
If a strike is deemed legal, one or more unions will strike, and others will honor the strike. No one seems to dispute that will result in liquidation.
If a strike is ruled illegal, one or more unions still could call a strike as a way of challenging such a ruling. In the best case, thousands will stop showing up to work, and most of them will probably picket, and the unions' leadership will publicly say there is no organized job action.
Is the judge going to have law enforcement arrest thousands of people for contempt of court? That still doesn't help the airline continue to operate, and the resulting publicity would certainly be enough to drive passengers away, a 1-2 punch that also will result in liquidation.
I understand what USA320Pilot and other optimists think will happen, but I just don't see any possibly good outcome if the judge throws out the contracts. If there's somewhere that my logic breaks down, I'd like someone to tell me. Because USA320Pilot continues to pass up opportunities to comment on it.
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US Airways to ask judge for more relief
"The most significant hearings in US Airways' bankruptcy begin today when the airline seeks approval to void labor contracts covering more than 20,000 workers and the pensions of 53,000 current and former workers and to cut the medical benefits of nearly 11,000 retirees."
Washington Times
Jim
"The most significant hearings in US Airways' bankruptcy begin today when the airline seeks approval to void labor contracts covering more than 20,000 workers and the pensions of 53,000 current and former workers and to cut the medical benefits of nearly 11,000 retirees."
Washington Times
Jim
