Deadline To Reject Pit Lease Will Not Be Extended

[burghlaw1]

Reported today in the Pittsburgh Business Times

Airport Authority: US Airways must decide by January

 

[PITbull]

In other words....U is asking for "relief". Period.

 

[delldude]

i didn't like the october 4 date anyways....seems like a slap in the face as far as ally county goes....i'm glad they denied their request...about time someone stood up to these hooligans.

 

[a320av8r]

See ya PIT...

 

[AOG-N-IT]

See ya PIT...

Hmmmm , This is a pretty high stakes game both sides are waging.

I understand boths sides point of view...but if U does blow it in PIT? , not only will service be reduced but U will then not have adequate facilities to handle all the maintenance work we have at present..let alone the Airbus thats past due.

Lets see whom blinks on this ???

 

[F/AinDay]

Does this mean that the county wants U to maintain it's leases 'til 2018 as was originally negotiated?

No mtc facilities to perform the Airbus work...seems like this would be the end to the ongoing battle with IAM. :angry:

What happens to the hub for the regional jets?

Hopefully the two sides will be able to work this out. The county is willing to reduce the debt at the airport, just not as much as U wants. Do ya think they will be able to reach a happy median here? Surely U doesn't want to even begin to pay the 20% premium in PIT.

 

[AOG-N-IT]

Hmmmm , This is a pretty high stakes game both sides are waging.

I understand boths sides point of view...but if U does blow it in PIT? , not only will service be reduced but U will then not have adequate facilities to handle all the maintenance work we have at present..let alone the Airbus thats past due.

Lets see whom blinks on this ???

Well if they abandoned PIT and the Mtc facilities wouldn't that render the whole outsourcing issue moot as then US would not have a place to do mtc?

Bob,

That's not entirely true. CLT is still not being used to it's maximum capacity.
CLT also has a new line hangar that could easily converted to heavy work ...we did afterall function for many moons without a dedicated line hangar.

CLT is also on record for being willing to build U any type of additional maintenence facility U might desire....and believe it or not ? U is in good standing money wise with the city of Charlotte and Mecklenberg county.

Timing would be of the utmost concern here...and the ousourcing battle will not simply go U's way because they elected to not play ball with Allegheny County...the judge has already made it clear that U has placed itself in the jam it's in....and it's nobodies fault but their own for having any supposed lack of facilities to perform our contractual work.

Again...it's about timing....should U back out of PIT ? CLT could have an alike constructed facility as the current line hangar built within 6 months time...I saw it happen once. Should a mirror facility of the current Big House be the desire?...that would take about 4 to 5 times as long....but the footings are already in place for exactly such a facility. ...maybe a single heavy maintenance base and distribution center is exactly the economy of scale we need?

The costs of running stuff back and forth between CLT and PIT is staggering ...and it's a scheduled run with private carriers...plus the added weight on many of the flights between the two hubs...it all adds up quickly as you can imagine.

I could see what I'm invisioning as saving every dime plus some in keepng with Siegels need for more cost savings in 2004 and beyond.

 

[usairways85]

can't US keep it's maintance facilities in PIT even if they leave? Look at all the other majors, they have maintance bases at airport that only get a dozen or two flights from hubs.

 

[AOG-N-IT]

can't US keep it's maintance facilities in PIT even if they leave? Look at all the other majors, they have maintance bases at airport that only get a dozen or two flights from hubs.

U closed INT and GSO due to them being off the beaten path sorta speak..I doubt a de-hubbed PIT would be anymore attractive?.,.,.and considering the condition of the facilities in PIT...they should be paying us to use them to begin with...and the employees should be drawning hazardous duty pay.

 

[ClueByFour]

Hmmmm , This is a pretty high stakes game both sides are waging.

I understand boths sides point of view...but if U does blow it in PIT? , not only will service be reduced but U will then not have adequate facilities to handle all the maintenance work we have at present..let alone the Airbus thats past due.

Lets see whom blinks on this ???

Well if they abandoned PIT and the Mtc facilities wouldn't that render the whole outsourcing issue moot as then US would not have a place to do mtc?

I think the judge made it perfectly clear that US is not going to be allowed to unilaterally rewrite the CBA by doing things like what you suggest.

 

[delldude]

Hmmmm , This is a pretty high stakes game both sides are waging.

I understand boths sides point of view...but if U does blow it in PIT? , not only will service be reduced but U will then not have adequate facilities to handle all the maintenance work we have at present..let alone the Airbus thats past due.

Lets see whom blinks on this ???

Well if they abandoned PIT and the Mtc facilities wouldn't that render the whole outsourcing issue moot as then US would not have a place to do mtc?

I think the judge made it perfectly clear that US is not going to be allowed to unilaterally rewrite the CBA by doing things like what you suggest.

how true,clue....in fact the cfm grievance and the closure of PSA airmotive to get around in house overhaul of those motors resulted in a ruling in the IAM'S favor,even though the company won the right to not bring the engines in house.i believe an arbiter ruled they could not close existing facilities to circumvent CBA'S.

 

[T-bone]

U closed INT and GSO due to them being off the beaten path sorta speak..I doubt a de-hubbed PIT would be anymore attractive?.,.,.and considering the condition of the facilities in PIT...they should be paying us to use them to begin with...and the employees should be drawning hazardous duty pay.

Aw come on Aog those hangers are merely rustic. Give us a break, we have done so much for so long with so little we are now capable of doing anything with nothing. Tee-hee.

Actually the company has no problem doing heavy in a base with out a hub or many flights------------Just check in Alabama!!!!!

Feels like we're being-----

 

[delldude]

Aw come on Aog those hangers are merely rustic. Give us a break, we have done so much for so long with so little we are now capable of doing anything with nothing. Tee-hee.

Actually the company has no problem doing heavy in a base with out a hub or many flights------------Just check in Alabama!!!!!

Feels like we're being-----

funny you mention that...i heard dr.bronner has or will be investing in a company that specializes in inflatable hangars...a go anywhere portable "s" check deal is on the way?
could this be the new "rolling heavy maintenance concept"?

 

[AOG-N-IT]

Aw come on Aog those hangers are merely rustic. Give us a break, we have done so much for so long with so little we are now capable of doing anything with nothing. Tee-hee.

Actually the company has no problem doing heavy in a base with out a hub or many flights------------Just check in Alabama!!!!!

Feels like we're being-----

Mearly Rustic ???...and we are a US major now too , Right??? (LOL)

Don't get me wrong here....the folks in PIT which I was one of for a number of months , do perform some amazing work in the most sub-standard of work enviroments imaginable.

I liken my time in PIT hangars 1 and 2 as just on par with my time at a now defunct US Express operation...the enviroment sucked at its best...yet we cranked out quality work witrh little to nothing in terms of real support.

Hangar 5 in PIT may be the best in terms of exterior appearances...and the outside signage may give the casual observer a false sense of it being modern and efficient...but those whom have worked there know better.

The only thing good you can say about the PIT maintenance facilities is the professionals that endure in them...I'm sure Howard Hughes would turn in his grave if he saw what Hangars 1 and 2 were allowed to lapse into.

 

[cavalier]

Aw come on Aog those hangers are merely rustic. Give us a break, we have done so much for so long with so little we are now capable of doing anything with nothing. Tee-hee.

Actually the company has no problem doing heavy in a base with out a hub or many flights------------Just check in Alabama!!!!!

Feels like we're being-----

Mearly Rustic ???...and we are a US major now too , Right??? (LOL)

Don't get me wrong here....the folks in PIT which I was one of for a number of months , do perform some amazing work in the most sub-standard of work enviroments imaginable.

I liken my time in PIT hangars 1 and 2 as just on par with my time at a now defunct US Express operation...the enviroment sucked at its best...yet we cranked out quality work witrh little to nothing in terms of real support.

Hangar 5 in PIT may be the best in terms of exterior appearances...and the outside signage may give the casual observer a false sense of it being modern and efficient...but those whom have worked there know better.

The only thing good you can say about the PIT maintenance facilities is the professionals that endure in them...I'm sure Howard Hughes would turn in his grave if he saw what Hangars 1 and 2 were allowed to lapse into.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I noticed you and you alone have been the only one bitching about the conditions in the hangers in Pit. The other guys from CLT who work here aren't bitching like you do. Granted CLT hangers are newer, but to hear you, one would think they should be closed for biohazard or something. Sorry folks, it’s not as this guy is drawing it, least I would quit for health reasons alone!