Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[doh nogo]

165 I think, and with all the money you have coming to you I'm sure you can now afford a nice piece to go with that grass filled beemer that you so heroically saved on that ill fated day.

You are so awesome jetz

What's the matter boys? Did your fat, ugly wives cut you off or something?

Let's see if I have this right. Jetz works for a real major airline, makes more money than you, drives a nicer car, probably has a better looking wife and bigger house than you...

And you guys think YOU have the last laugh?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a pathetic bunch of jealous, bitter, washed up old men you are.

 

[eastcoast]

What an idiot. Unbelievable narcissist. TOOLBAG comes to mind.

Look in the mirror my friend.

You and your kind have kept us all from earning what we deserve, threw away MILLIONS of dollars that should have been in OUR pockets versus that of the company and lawyers, all on a fools errand, and do nothing but attack anyone who dares to shed a light on your tyranny.

You are what is wrong with our union and our profession.

Selfish narcissist indeed.

 

[eastcoast]

What's the matter boys? Did your fat, ugly wives cut you off or something?

Now, now. I know you are only shoveling some manure back over the fence, but no need to stoop to their level.

 

[noDOH4u]

What's the matter boys? Did your fat, ugly wives cut you off or something?

Let's see if I have this right. Jetz works for a real major airline, makes more money than you, drives a nicer car, probably has a better looking wife and bigger house than you...

And you guys think YOU have the last laugh?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a pathetic bunch of jealous, bitter, washed up old men you are.

I might add that Jetz has been on target far more often, is more liked, and more respected around here than any of these clowns.

No wonder they hate him.

 

[cactusboy53]

Your own PHX rep has come off the Nicolau. And the possibility of a ratio with an AA merger is his scant victory. Pure speculation. And that is your cram job on the eastern group? Funny how a ratio possibility and no Nicolau ever is now your victory lap. Pathetic.

If you are speaking of me, you are wrong and taking what I said out of context (what a surprise). Your head is so filled with hyperbole, it's likely to explode, son.

 

[cleardirect]

If you are speaking of me, you are wrong and taking what I said out of context (what a surprise). Your head is so filled with hyperbole, it's likely to explode, son.

Claxon is full of something. But that should soon be emptied when usapa and the east pilots 8 years childish rant gets flushed.

 

[usa1]

US Airways Pilots, After Long Wait, Want Payoff From AMR Merger

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11801651/1/us-airways-pilots-after-long-wait-want-payoff-from-amr-merger.html

 

[luvthe9]

Let's see if I have this right. Jetz works for a real major airline, makes more money than you, drives a nicer car, probably has a better looking wife and bigger house than you...

And

Wow, your showiing your desperation again, Jetz made what we made (when he was not on furlough) the ink is not even dry on their new contact and if you have seen his wife I would just keep the car. Please you are just embarrassing yourself.

 

[cleardirect]

US Airways Pilots, After Long Wait, Want Payoff From AMR Merger

http://www.thestreet...amr-merger.html

Poor Ted he is going to lose his source when usapa is buried.

Just more whining from the east about how unfair life is for them.

 

[luvthe9]

Just more whining from the east about how unfair life is for them.

Yea your right, no west whining about the NIC, you guys do entertain us out here I will say that.

 

[prechilill]

Poor Ted he is going to lose his source when usapa is buried.

Just more whining from the east about how unfair life is for them.

I love reading this stuf...The whining and crying in that piece from Reed has set an all-time high...lol
Just another small piece added to the bigger picture the east is about to get kicked in the nuts with their "DOH gold standard" bs.
The piggies out east are really starting to squeal!!

 

[Boeing Driver]

Other than your retarded opinion, do you actually have proof the west reps came off the Nicolau? A statement, a letter, anything will do...
Moron

Proof will be forth coming soon. Patience little sand people...

Boeing Driver

 

[prechilill]

Proof will be forth coming soon. Patience little sand people...

Boeing Driver

Just as we all predicted- you're full of crap.
Anxiously awaiting...lol

 

[Claxon]

But wait. Pilot seniority integration was handed over to arbitrator George Nicolau, who issued a ruling in 2007. It seems fair to say that the ruling was absurd. It followed a conventional pattern for "slotting" pilots from two merging carriers, but it also placed a never-laid-off 56-year-old pilot with 17 years at US Airways behind a 35-year-old America West pilot with a few months on the job. In hundreds of similar cases, east pilots with 15 or more years at the carrier went behind west pilots with a few years or less. In fact, the ruling seems to violate ALPA's anti-windfall policy.
It must also be said that the ruling resulted from binding arbitration. Nicolau was jointly selected by pilots from both airlines. One cannot dispute west pilots' contention that "binding arbitration is binding arbitration," although an east pilot once told me that "my first marriage was final and binding too." In my view, rank-and-file US Airways pilots were sold out by hardline leaders who refused to back down from their insistence on unadulterated date-of-hire seniority, even though Nicolau asked them to negotiate and Jack Stephan, who was president of the US Airways ALPA chapter, wanted to. Over the years, multiple non-pilot sources have told me that Nicolau was frustrated by the conduct of these supposed leaders. His ruling seems to reflect that.
After the ruling, the east pilots voted to leave ALPA for the newly created USAPA. With a voting majority, they dragged along the west pilots, kicking and screaming.

Crying and whining is more like it. At the ruling everyone else saw for what it is. Happy New Year. The year the Nicolau is destroyed.

 

[Claxon]

Now a merger seems almost here. Expectations are high. The west pilots generally want a deal, although one told me the top benefit would be "putting USAPA in the grave." East pilots generally want a deal too. But some worry that so far the airline's bargaining position has not included maintenance of their scope clause, which protects the Charlotte and Philadelphia flying that they see as the principal asset they have been able to retain through their struggles.
Some American pilots, opposed to a merger, have compiled a "date of hire" seniority list that places many US Airways pilots ahead of American pilots. Theoretically, that could enable US Airways pilots to take the best international routes from Chicago, Dallas and Miami. But US Airways pilots have no desire or expectation to take American flying, and they fully expect "fences" to protect both carriers' flying in any merger deal. As one US Airways pilot told me, "We're not looking for a windfall. We never have. We just want to protect what we bring to the party."
For this downtrodden pilot group, that does not seem a lot to ask.