Cactusboy has come off the Nic as being the methodology. Have you?
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Cactusboy has come off the Nic as being the methodology. Have you?
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What possible difference did it make seeing how the West representitives had no authority whatsoever to modify the NIC. Your group would have never allowed it.
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All the east pilots I know love the fact you overreached for the Nic. Now you are going into an AA merger without a contract with the Nic in it. The best possible position to be in. No Nic, 7 yrs after the fact. It has no standing and you know it. It is dead as a doornail. The AA pilots know it has no legal footprint. It was merely a bargaining proposal, backed by Judge Silver and the 9th.
Ted Reed is an exceptional writer, who writes the facts. The facts you know are correct. The Nic is absurd, and finished.
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Occam's Razor. The east did what they did because they could.
Correct.
Had I been MEC chair, I would have given Prater 10 business days to submit the Nic to the company, or sued National for breach of DFR.
Further, I would not have interfered with his Rice committee, or Wye River, that was his use of no authority. the Executive council had to reign the rogue president in and demand he present the list.
What Wye could have gotten the east however, is preferential contract provisions to mitigate certain things you felt were the downside of the Nic.....
My point is you are living a lot better than you would have absent the merger, and far worse than you would have if you had accepted the Nic, moved on got parity in a JCBA, which bt now would be JCBA number two, and we would all be in a much better position going into the AMR merger.
As is stands, we are at a huge disadvantage to the AMR pilots, and what is ludicrous is that there are still east pilots posting thinking somehow they will end up negotiating DOH with the APA.
Wrong again.....
The West has a contract with the Nic in it.....go reference Silver, and the 9th in Addington.
Found a legitimate union purpose for amending that contract yet?
And while I am at it, and just to rub salt in the wound...how is that LOA 93 working out for ya??? If we end up in a 3 way with the APA....you guys will lose position relative to the West on the Nic, and all LCC pilots are going to pay the price for your ignorance.
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
US Airways, Inc.,
Plaintiff,
vs.
Don Addington, et al.,
Defendants.
))))))))))
No. CV-10-01570-PHX-ROS
AMENDED JUDGMENT
(to add description of class)
Pursuant to the Court’s resolution of the motions for summary judgment,
IT IS ORDERED Counts I and III of the complaint are dismissed and judgment is
entered in favor of US Airline Pilots Association on Count II of the complaint. US Airline
Pilots Association’s seniority proposal does not breach its duty of fair representation
provided it is supported by a legitimate union purpose. This judgment is binding on the
following class: “All pilots employed by US Airways in September 2008 who were on the
America West seniority list on September 20, 2005.”
DATED this 4th day of December, 2012.
Judge Roslyn O. Silver
Dear Mr B L
It was Lady Justice who said the East can, over and over again.
http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/scusi/scusi1203/scusi120300024/12802197-statue-of-justice.jpg
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I see Ted has been crying on your behalf again. LMAO. So this is Hummel's last ditch effort before the vote on 9th.
I can't stop laughing at the situation those east idiot reps are in. They have to figure out whether send out the MOU or vote it down by the 9th and they know Nic goes along with it. They're stuck. If they send it out for a vote, it's like they're endorsing the Nic award. If they turn it down, they blow term sheet rates, retirement, $10k, and retro to name a few. So a no vote means you lose all that for the 18 months it takes to merge this thing and, during that time, USAPA disappears in 4-6 months. So you idiots won't have anyone to blame.
What's it going to be easties? Accept the Nic and the MOU or stay on LOA93 for 18 more months, lose USAPA, and still integrate with the Nic?
You guys can't possibly be that stupid, can you?
Oh, BTW, the APA thinks you guys are morons.
I can't stop laughing at the situation those east idiot reps are in. They have to figure out whether send out the MOU or vote it down by the 9th and they know Nic goes along with it. They're stuck. If they send it out for a vote, it's like they're endorsing the Nic award. If they turn it down, they blow term sheet rates, retirement, $10k, and retro to name a few. So a no vote means you lose all that for the 18 months it takes to merge this thing and, during that time, USAPA disappears in 4-6 months. So you idiots won't have anyone to blame.
What's it going to be easties? Accept the Nic and the MOU or stay on LOA93 for 18 more months, lose USAPA, and still integrate with the Nic?
You guys can't possibly be that stupid, can you?
Oh, BTW, the APA thinks you guys are morons.
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Oh look, the retard thinks Reed is am exceptional writer! LMAO! I'm sure Ted is beaming with that endorsement.
Seven years with no Nic? Nope, Nic is still here. It's ore like seven years with the majority pilots unable to use their strength in numbers to cram down their DOH list. Hell, you losers couldn't even get it over the table for SEVEN years.
LMAO.
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