Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Claxon]

Cute..

A couple of years means two.

Lets add 11 months to that.


Who is the tool looking a gift horse in the mouth?


Unbelieveable..................................................



So tell me sunshine, lets assume you're right... and the numbers you throw out there are correct.. Absent AA ...




Whats in your pocket???

unreal...........................

I GOT mine.. how do you GET yours?


You take stupidity to a new level

Make sure you vote yes. After all, passing on a chance to merge with TEN THOUSAND like thinking guys and girls is too much to pass up. Except for 924. He wins again

 

[AAviator]

You have access to your scope guy so I suggest you call him. I repeated to you exactly what he told me.

The problem is this has nothing to do with scope.


Next?

 

[Claxon]

You have access to your scope guy so I suggest you call him. I repeated to you exactly what he told me.

The funny part is you believed what he said.

 

[Claxon]

The problem is this has nothing to do with scope.


Next?

Yes, next?

 

[AAviator]

Now, this is going to be good. AA, is this in reference to how they stacked the deck to your liking with regard to the AWA guys getting DOH?
The Leonidas boys thought you would love the young uns going on top. Not very believable but they claim to have their fingers on the pulse of the industry in this regard.
Dreams die hard, but die they will.

Funny,
The thing about that binding list is that its shown some durability....

I suspect that charactaristic will continue until the east wakes up.

 

[AAviator]

Try again. You posted all over me. The threats to the LCC group are right in character. My friends there could care less to merge with you a$$holes though.

Threats?

No threats cupcake.

Reality....

 

[N924PS]

And you and Silverman found each other to pork over your F/o s. after you got a fair merge. Pathetic
I am sure you will love the AA jump seat too. You get to use your seniority again to your advantage. Fine with you there too, right?

Dean Collelo addresses this question in one of the road show videos.

It's just possible that AA could wind up with a IVR Jumpseat system that operates as ours does now. Not seniority based but whoever dials the fastest at midnight a week before. The F/A's should have a similar system, but alas, they will never give up their seniority based system.

I will most likely be retired before there are any changes to the USAirways way of doing business, except for the pay if the MOU is approved and the AA/USAirways merger happens. The way we do it here is just fine with me and I hope going forward it remains the jumpseat system of choice.

And regarding Captain JS. I hope I am there to shake his hand when he flys his final flight at USAirways in the not too distant future. He has been a good friend for 35 years. There are no gray areas with him and you always know where he stands. I will treasure the crew news where he tells Cleary off. Best entertainment since "Top Gun"!

 

[Pi brat]

Cute..

A couple of years means two.

Lets add 11 months to that.


Who is the tool looking a gift horse in the mouth?


Unbelieveable..................................................



So tell me sunshine, lets assume you're right... and the numbers you throw out there are correct.. Absent AA ...




Whats in your pocket???

unreal...........................

I GOT mine.. how do you GET yours?


You take stupidity to a new level

Oh sweetie, does it make you mad to be shown some basic math, or is it just that someone questions a great AAviator?

Let's look at some of the other scenarios floating around here. Let's say the westies are correct and we go to an arbitration panel with the Nic award. Then, they produce a Nicolau type award. Then in a "couple years" we are all one big happy family, the protections are gone and the bases start realigning. PHX shrinks and those senior to me come to CLT. AA pilots come to CLT (CLT seems to be the base of choice for those merged). Suddenly I can't hold A320 capt. I now get to commute or am displaced. Will I make "100% more" then?

I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth, I'm looking and challenging a horse's ass to his face. I think the merger is best for all of us. I voted for the MOU. But, you didn't do anything for me. You didn't want the merger. I will counter your BS when I see.

You got yours? All by yourself! No help from anyone. That $87 million extra with the merger, all done by you.

Move along.

 

[Portly Dorman]

What difference does it make if its internal union or company? An arbitration is an arbitration. Not agreeing with it doesn't nullify it.

usapa C&BL's trump all other law. Source- Mark King, usapa founder

 

[AAviator]

Ptweeeeeeeeet!

BS flag thrown. Stop the clock.

Oh sweetie, does it make you mad to be shown some basic math, or is it just that someone questions a great AAviator?

Let's look at some of the other scenarios floating around here. Let's say the westies are correct and we go to an arbitration panel with the Nic award. Then, they produce a Nicolau type award. Then in a "couple years" we are all one big happy family, the protections are gone and the bases start realigning. PHX shrinks and those senior to me come to CLT. AA pilots come to CLT (CLT seems to be the base of choice for those merged). Suddenly I can't hold A320 capt. I now get to commute or am displaced.





Will I make "100% more" then?



Yes, you will.




I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth, I'm looking and challenging a horse's ass to his face. I think the merger is best for all of us. I voted for the MOU. But, you didn't do anything for me. You didn't want the merger. I will counter your BS when I see.

You got yours? All by yourself! No help from anyone. That $87 million extra with the merger, all done by you.

Move along.

Bump pay protection is included in the MOU. You will not lose a dime.





Next?

 

[Pi brat]

Ptweeeeeeeeet!

BS flag thrown. Stop the clock.





Bump pay protection is included in the MOU. You will not lose a dime.





Next?

Protections last until the earlier of:
18 months past the date of a single operating certificate (most likely 3 ½ to 4 years)or;
Date the JCBA and integrated seniority list are effective

That could be around "a couple of years"

Plus, who said "Given the new aircraft, both mainline 125 seat and regional (w/FC cabins), DFW is poised to grow without a merger.

CLT will lose traffic no matter what, so why should AA employees get bumped due to the coming reductions in CLT?"

So I might have to go to that hole called DFW for my protections.

 

[AAviator]

You have access to your scope guy so I suggest you call him. I repeated to you exactly what he told me.

Were you at the DCA APA meeting?

 

[AAviator]

Protections last until the earlier of:
18 months past the date of a single operating certificate (most likely 3 ½ to 4 years)or;
Date the JCBA and integrated seniority list are effective

That could be around "a couple of years"

Plus, who said "Given the new aircraft, both mainline 125 seat and regional (w/FC cabins), DFW is poised to grow without a merger.

CLT will lose traffic no matter what, so why should AA employees get bumped due to the coming reductions in CLT?"

So I might have to go to that hole called DFW for my protections.

So you're a firm "no" vote.

Right?

 

[AAviator]

delete.

dupe post

 

[luvthe9]

Dean Collelo addresses this question in one of the road show videos.

It's just possible that AA could wind up with a IVR Jumpseat system that operates as ours does now. Not seniority based but whoever dials the fastest at midnight a week before. The F/A's should have a similar system, but alas, they will never give up their seniority based system.

I will most likely be retired before there are any changes to the USAirways way of doing business, except for the pay if the MOU is approved and the AA/USAirways merger happens. The way we do it here is just fine with me and I hope going forward it remains the jumpseat system of choice.

And regarding Captain JS. I hope I am there to shake his hand when he flys his final flight at USAirways in the not too distant future. He has been a good friend for 35 years. There are no gray areas with him and you always know where he stands. I will treasure the crew news where he tells Cleary off. Best entertainment since "Top Gun"!

Silverman is an idiot. You are probably the only one here who likes him. And he didn't stand Cleary down. He absolutely sucked up to Parker. True to form. Everyone there was embarrassed about him.