The only problem here is that a big raise for U drags the operation down..... CAL Brought the East coast and Latin america to UAL. NWA brought ASIA and KLM/NATL to DAL.
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True that. Wait till AA management works a deal so bad that you LCC people never dreamed of not caving to the APA like AirTran caved to the LUV boat. You guys will cave under APA before you ever see arbitration. You almost deserve it. No, you really do deserve it when you sign up for it.
Here it is Cactusboy! These A$$holes in bankruptcy will still run over you! You rock AA Aviator! And you thought Cleary was an ####? You haven't seen anything!
get educated
Now, this is going to be good. AA, is this in reference to how they stacked the deck to your liking with regard to the AWA guys getting DOH?
The Leonidas boys thought you would love the young uns going on top. Not very believable but they claim to have their fingers on the pulse of the industry in this regard.
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Well those Compass Correction guys, you know Dinsdale Piranah aka Woodrow Menear has endorsed Paul Diorio as Chairman for the BPR in PHL. This is quite a difference from Last April.
[font="Times New Roman""]You’ve got to be kidding me…Woody and the CCC have always thrown rocks at DiOrio…now he’s their best buddy! Hey, I don’t care who you vote for but Woody and his blog have ZERO credibility with me anymore…here are a few famous CCC blogs[/font][font="Times New Roman""].[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font][font="Times New Roman""]April 12, 2012[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Building Credentials[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]A New Day for USAPA[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]So fellow pilots and USAPA members, particularly you the PHL voters, it is time to pay attention to this little glimpse into the current political world of Mike Cleary and his last desperate grasp for power. It is also important to note the continued political maneuvering by the current CLT and PHL reps and their disregard for your wishes, not to mention YOUR money.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]We know Jamie Weidner from our days as the Council 41 leaders who were the first to declare our opposition to the NIC. Jamie was right there with us on the bus to and from Herndon and he’s never gotten off that bus since. He is the intelligent, rational and independent candidate that we can all be proud of.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Fraternally,[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Eric Rowe PHL A330[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Woody Menear PHL 7i[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Jed Thomas PHL A330[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Dave Ciabattoni PHL AB 320[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]May 19, 2012[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]ALL ABOARD….LAST CALL! [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Jamie Weidner equals progress; his opponent is a blast from our recent past of a failed union leadership. We may not care in the least for Mr. Parker and his style, but his management team is leading this freight train toward his vision of the airline’s future. We can either get on board, insisting that we help control the speed and select which track we follow, or we can again try to stand on the tracks and yell, “stop!” We no longer have the luxury of time to see when or if obdurate and contrarian strategies will eventually bend the company to our will…;[/font][font="Times New Roman""] Please, if you haven’t voted yet, vote for Jamie Weidner.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]This is a very important election and your careful, informed vote will determine the direction this union takes. Do we move forward to a new day, a new culture, and success, or do we return to the past 3 years of “nothing?”;[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]We are either driving the American Flyer, or we can all watch the train wreck.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Please visit Jamie’s website via the link below, and also there is a link to BallotPoint![/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]https://www.BallotPoint.com/USAPA[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]www.jamieweidner.com[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Respectfully,[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Woody Menear PHL-7i[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Eric Rowe PHL-A330[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]OPPORTUNITY! [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]ONE CHANCE, TO GET THIS RIGHT![/font]
[font="Arial""]May 3, 2012[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]For the first time in over a decade, US Airways pilots are in position to improve our working conditions, perhaps dramatically. Even better, not only [/font]can[font="Times New Roman""] it be done in weeks, circumstances dictate that it [/font]must…;[font="Times New Roman""] We have been mired in a swamp for the last 3 years, as relates to contract negotiations (Paul DiOrio)…. Most assuredly, now is a time where reasonable men, with reasonable minds, must take the lead; that means electing such reasonable men and women and rebuking, or replacing those who doggedly cling to the failed tactics of our recent past.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]At the PHL Domicile, right now, we are facing such a decision and an opportunity. One candidate is tied to our previous USAPA leadership, a leadership who produced 3 years of[/font] less [font="Times New Roman""]than nothing, meaning that their style inflicted actual harm on our pilots, individually and collectively. The relationship with the company, (what little there was of it) – was contentious, marginalized, and unproductive. USAPA’s last three years were initially marked by mutual mistrust and it deteriorated from there, to complete isolation and antagonism.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]In short, we need clear headed, calm thinking pilot advocates and we need them now. Do not vote for any candidate who doesn’t have a grasp on what is about to happen either with us, or to us, depending upon how our elected representatives conduct themselves. We have come to the conclusion that the right man to represent the best interests of the PHL pilots and indeed, those of all the US Airways pilots is Jamie Weidner. We urge you to cast your vote for Jamie; he will do the difficult job ahead with integrity, honesty and thoughtful deliberation.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Respectfully,[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Eric Rowe – PHL A330[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Woody Menear – PHL 7i[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Hey Woody...did you forget about when you were throwing rocks at DiOrio in this update![/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]August 26, 2010[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] It was in this time frame that USAPAs’ CLT Representative Steve Crimi made his now infamous “career” move to the MESA Alter Ego operation, Freedom Airlines. This move predated LOA 85 (loss of DB Pension), LOA 91 (out sourcing), and LOA 93. Now that’s clairvoyant![/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Day Two, Thursday, November 7, 2002[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]093-0Beebe reconvenes meeting[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Pollock, Osterhus present[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Roll call: All MEC members present[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]AI 02-177 Company’s Request for Additional Small Jet Relief[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Motion Newman/Belz:[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Main motion, as amended, now read~[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]WHEREAS management has informed the Association that the Company needs to obtain Small Jets on an expedited basis for competitive reasons, and[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]WHEREAS the Association has determined that obtaining additional Small Jets on an expedited basis would be beneficial in generating more revenue for USAirways as well as in the creation of additional job opportunities for US Airways pilots who wish to participate in the “jets for jobs” program,[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the MEC authorizes the Negotiating Committee to engage in negotiations with the Company to discuss modification of Section 1 of the Agreement and the Restructuring Agreement in order to expedite the placement of a specific number of additional Small Jets at affiliate carriers, and[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the negotiations will include appropriate restrictions to protect the startup of Mid Atlantic Airways and to assure job opportunities for US Airways pilots.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that, in connection with any small jet relief, the Negotiating Committee seek relevant job terms consistent with the Mid Atlantic code-sharing authority contained in the Restructuring Agreement.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Division Mowery[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Yes: D’Angelo, [/font][font="Times New Roman""]DiOrio,[/font][font="Times New Roman""] Tosi, Scola, Newman, Baker,[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Brookman, Be/z, Limpitlaw, Baier, Hocking[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]No: Mowery[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Totals: 11 yes, 1 no: Motion, as amended, passes[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]No Vote: Doug Mowery… the only No-Vote…the much maligned by the “Regime”, anti junior Pilot supporter- Doug Mowery; funny old thing, those smear campaigns, no? Is that the same DiOrio…?[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]In simple terms, in case you still missed the point:[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]It was the then PHL Captain Rep, Doug Mowery who single handedly ensured that the vote would be recorded (division) so those who voted in favor of giving the Negotiating Committee the big green light would not be able to hide later on. It was also he Mowery, who stood alone to slow down this runaway train.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] So, we all know how this worked out.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]The USAirways pilots, with the “turbulence” of 9-11’s perfect storm, agreed to relax section 1 scope with job protections for the USAirways pilots and pilot furloughees…”soft landings”. We all know what a failure MDA was, and are reminded of that everytime a Republic Airlines 170 goes by, or, as the case a few weeks ago in DFW, a USAirways crew watched a MidWest Express 170 taxi by with a MD tail number. We all know what a failure the “jets for jobs” program was also, as our furloughees were subject to low pay and horrible working conditions at many of our partner regional airlines. It didn’t seem to work out much better for US Airways either. [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]One of the most notorious regional airlines with notably horrible pay and working conditions was MESA, led by the anti-labor CEO Jonathon Ornstein, which was quickly putting a plan in place to undercut Scope provisions and gain an advantage, a la Frontier Horizons, New York Air, et al, over his own unions with the creation of Freedom Airlines.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]So, while airline MGT teams were gleefully gutting contracts, furloughing pilots, terminating pensions, and extracting huge concessions from labor under the bankruptcy code, threat of liquidation, and the turmoil after 9-11, some MGT teams went further, like MESA did to extract even more through the creation of an alter-ego airline.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Without it, their plan wouldn’t get off the ground. MESA’s alter-ego airline needed pilots, and Steve Crimi signed up. We should all be trying to prevent the mistakes made at ALPA, but unfortunately with some of the same players entrenched in leadership positions currently at USAPA, history may be repeating itself![/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Dave Ciabattoni[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Woody Menear[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Arial""]February 1, 2013[/font]
[font="Arial""]Endorsement of Paul DiOrio for PHL Domicile Chairman by Woody Menear:[/font]
[font="Arial""]Trying times continue and will only intensify for the pilots of US Airways, including those based at the PHL Domicile.
We need dynamic thinkers, good listeners and confident decision makers responding to the various pressures exerted on USAPA, by management, APA and others who don’t always have our best interests at heart; even those entities who claim they do.
What we don’t need is a Chairman who is passive, accepting and gullible, even one who might be likeable enough. These next few months, perhaps the next couple of years, (depending upon the merger outcome) - will be literally pivotal for determining our working conditions. Our status as equals with original American pilots is very much in doubt, based on the current MOU.
Paul DiOrio has years of experience in negotiating the terms of our contract and he is intimately familiar with the nuances of that document, as well as the Green Book, should that become our working agreement, this knowledge will be very useful in his dealings on our behalf.
I endorse Paul DiOrio not because he is always a “nice guy”, although I personally like Paul. He is not a guy with whom I always agree. We need Paul DiOrio now, because he is a strong personality, who believes what he believes and can defend those positions in negotiations and debates.
Paul listens; he has listened to me and vice versa and we both have had our positions influenced by the other; THAT is a very good thing. Paul thinks for himself and yet is open to the ideas of others. He can be persuasive. These are traits that will come in handy in dealings with everyone, from his fellow Board members, to the Chief Pilots, as well as upper management.
My vote for PHL Chairman is Paul DiOrio and I hope we all will give Paul serious consideration.
Fraternally,
Woody Menear PHL 767
You can vote now by clicking here[/font]
[font="Arial""]Dinsdale Meanar - What are your thinking? Are you thinking at all?[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]You’ve got to be kidding me…Woody and the CCC have always thrown rocks at DiOrio…now he’s their best buddy! Hey, I don’t care who you vote for but Woody and his blog have ZERO credibility with me anymore…here are a few famous CCC blogs[/font][font="Times New Roman""].[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font][font="Times New Roman""]April 12, 2012[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Building Credentials[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]A New Day for USAPA[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]So fellow pilots and USAPA members, particularly you the PHL voters, it is time to pay attention to this little glimpse into the current political world of Mike Cleary and his last desperate grasp for power. It is also important to note the continued political maneuvering by the current CLT and PHL reps and their disregard for your wishes, not to mention YOUR money.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]We know Jamie Weidner from our days as the Council 41 leaders who were the first to declare our opposition to the NIC. Jamie was right there with us on the bus to and from Herndon and he’s never gotten off that bus since. He is the intelligent, rational and independent candidate that we can all be proud of.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Fraternally,[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Eric Rowe PHL A330[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Woody Menear PHL 7i[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Jed Thomas PHL A330[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Dave Ciabattoni PHL AB 320[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]May 19, 2012[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]ALL ABOARD….LAST CALL! [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Jamie Weidner equals progress; his opponent is a blast from our recent past of a failed union leadership. We may not care in the least for Mr. Parker and his style, but his management team is leading this freight train toward his vision of the airline’s future. We can either get on board, insisting that we help control the speed and select which track we follow, or we can again try to stand on the tracks and yell, “stop!” We no longer have the luxury of time to see when or if obdurate and contrarian strategies will eventually bend the company to our will…;[/font][font="Times New Roman""] Please, if you haven’t voted yet, vote for Jamie Weidner.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]This is a very important election and your careful, informed vote will determine the direction this union takes. Do we move forward to a new day, a new culture, and success, or do we return to the past 3 years of “nothing?”;[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]We are either driving the American Flyer, or we can all watch the train wreck.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Please visit Jamie’s website via the link below, and also there is a link to BallotPoint![/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]https://www.BallotPoint.com/USAPA[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]www.jamieweidner.com[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Respectfully,[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Woody Menear PHL-7i[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Eric Rowe PHL-A330[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]OPPORTUNITY! [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]ONE CHANCE, TO GET THIS RIGHT![/font]
[font="Arial""]May 3, 2012[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]For the first time in over a decade, US Airways pilots are in position to improve our working conditions, perhaps dramatically. Even better, not only [/font]can[font="Times New Roman""] it be done in weeks, circumstances dictate that it [/font]must…;[font="Times New Roman""] We have been mired in a swamp for the last 3 years, as relates to contract negotiations (Paul DiOrio)…. Most assuredly, now is a time where reasonable men, with reasonable minds, must take the lead; that means electing such reasonable men and women and rebuking, or replacing those who doggedly cling to the failed tactics of our recent past.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]At the PHL Domicile, right now, we are facing such a decision and an opportunity. One candidate is tied to our previous USAPA leadership, a leadership who produced 3 years of[/font] less [font="Times New Roman""]than nothing, meaning that their style inflicted actual harm on our pilots, individually and collectively. The relationship with the company, (what little there was of it) – was contentious, marginalized, and unproductive. USAPA’s last three years were initially marked by mutual mistrust and it deteriorated from there, to complete isolation and antagonism.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]In short, we need clear headed, calm thinking pilot advocates and we need them now. Do not vote for any candidate who doesn’t have a grasp on what is about to happen either with us, or to us, depending upon how our elected representatives conduct themselves. We have come to the conclusion that the right man to represent the best interests of the PHL pilots and indeed, those of all the US Airways pilots is Jamie Weidner. We urge you to cast your vote for Jamie; he will do the difficult job ahead with integrity, honesty and thoughtful deliberation.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Respectfully,[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Eric Rowe – PHL A330[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Woody Menear – PHL 7i[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Hey Woody...did you forget about when you were throwing rocks at DiOrio in this update![/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]August 26, 2010[/font]
[font="Cambria""]RJ’s – aka Contract Killers[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Back in the Fall of 2002 with the ink still wet on Restructuring Agreement #1, the AAA MEC was back at the concession table mulling over giving the company another bite of the apple while the Company operated under the protection of the bankruptcy court. Section one (Scope) of our contract was a hot topic and much sought after as always. The conventional wisdom was that Airlines couldn’t compete without a fleet of shiny new Regional Jets flown by young Pilots at half the pay rates with lousy working conditions saturating the airspace with Southwest-like frequency.[/font][font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] It was in this time frame that USAPAs’ CLT Representative Steve Crimi made his now infamous “career” move to the MESA Alter Ego operation, Freedom Airlines. This move predated LOA 85 (loss of DB Pension), LOA 91 (out sourcing), and LOA 93. Now that’s clairvoyant![/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Day Two, Thursday, November 7, 2002[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]093-0Beebe reconvenes meeting[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Pollock, Osterhus present[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Roll call: All MEC members present[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]AI 02-177 Company’s Request for Additional Small Jet Relief[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Motion Newman/Belz:[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Main motion, as amended, now read~[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]WHEREAS management has informed the Association that the Company needs to obtain Small Jets on an expedited basis for competitive reasons, and[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]WHEREAS the Association has determined that obtaining additional Small Jets on an expedited basis would be beneficial in generating more revenue for USAirways as well as in the creation of additional job opportunities for US Airways pilots who wish to participate in the “jets for jobs” program,[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the MEC authorizes the Negotiating Committee to engage in negotiations with the Company to discuss modification of Section 1 of the Agreement and the Restructuring Agreement in order to expedite the placement of a specific number of additional Small Jets at affiliate carriers, and[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the negotiations will include appropriate restrictions to protect the startup of Mid Atlantic Airways and to assure job opportunities for US Airways pilots.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that, in connection with any small jet relief, the Negotiating Committee seek relevant job terms consistent with the Mid Atlantic code-sharing authority contained in the Restructuring Agreement.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Division Mowery[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Yes: D’Angelo, [/font][font="Times New Roman""]DiOrio,[/font][font="Times New Roman""] Tosi, Scola, Newman, Baker,[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Brookman, Be/z, Limpitlaw, Baier, Hocking[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]No: Mowery[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Totals: 11 yes, 1 no: Motion, as amended, passes[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]No Vote: Doug Mowery… the only No-Vote…the much maligned by the “Regime”, anti junior Pilot supporter- Doug Mowery; funny old thing, those smear campaigns, no? Is that the same DiOrio…?[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]In simple terms, in case you still missed the point:[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]It was the then PHL Captain Rep, Doug Mowery who single handedly ensured that the vote would be recorded (division) so those who voted in favor of giving the Negotiating Committee the big green light would not be able to hide later on. It was also he Mowery, who stood alone to slow down this runaway train.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] So, we all know how this worked out.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]The USAirways pilots, with the “turbulence” of 9-11’s perfect storm, agreed to relax section 1 scope with job protections for the USAirways pilots and pilot furloughees…”soft landings”. We all know what a failure MDA was, and are reminded of that everytime a Republic Airlines 170 goes by, or, as the case a few weeks ago in DFW, a USAirways crew watched a MidWest Express 170 taxi by with a MD tail number. We all know what a failure the “jets for jobs” program was also, as our furloughees were subject to low pay and horrible working conditions at many of our partner regional airlines. It didn’t seem to work out much better for US Airways either. [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]One of the most notorious regional airlines with notably horrible pay and working conditions was MESA, led by the anti-labor CEO Jonathon Ornstein, which was quickly putting a plan in place to undercut Scope provisions and gain an advantage, a la Frontier Horizons, New York Air, et al, over his own unions with the creation of Freedom Airlines.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]So, while airline MGT teams were gleefully gutting contracts, furloughing pilots, terminating pensions, and extracting huge concessions from labor under the bankruptcy code, threat of liquidation, and the turmoil after 9-11, some MGT teams went further, like MESA did to extract even more through the creation of an alter-ego airline.[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]However, MESA needed one thing for their plan to work . . .[/font][font="Times New Roman""]Without it, their plan wouldn’t get off the ground. MESA’s alter-ego airline needed pilots, and Steve Crimi signed up. We should all be trying to prevent the mistakes made at ALPA, but unfortunately with some of the same players entrenched in leadership positions currently at USAPA, history may be repeating itself![/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Dave Ciabattoni[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""]Woody Menear[/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Times New Roman""] [/font]
[font="Arial""]February 1, 2013[/font]
[font="Arial""]Endorsement of Paul DiOrio for PHL Domicile Chairman by Woody Menear:[/font]
[font="Arial""]Trying times continue and will only intensify for the pilots of US Airways, including those based at the PHL Domicile.
We need dynamic thinkers, good listeners and confident decision makers responding to the various pressures exerted on USAPA, by management, APA and others who don’t always have our best interests at heart; even those entities who claim they do.
What we don’t need is a Chairman who is passive, accepting and gullible, even one who might be likeable enough. These next few months, perhaps the next couple of years, (depending upon the merger outcome) - will be literally pivotal for determining our working conditions. Our status as equals with original American pilots is very much in doubt, based on the current MOU.
Paul DiOrio has years of experience in negotiating the terms of our contract and he is intimately familiar with the nuances of that document, as well as the Green Book, should that become our working agreement, this knowledge will be very useful in his dealings on our behalf.
I endorse Paul DiOrio not because he is always a “nice guy”, although I personally like Paul. He is not a guy with whom I always agree. We need Paul DiOrio now, because he is a strong personality, who believes what he believes and can defend those positions in negotiations and debates.
Paul listens; he has listened to me and vice versa and we both have had our positions influenced by the other; THAT is a very good thing. Paul thinks for himself and yet is open to the ideas of others. He can be persuasive. These are traits that will come in handy in dealings with everyone, from his fellow Board members, to the Chief Pilots, as well as upper management.
My vote for PHL Chairman is Paul DiOrio and I hope we all will give Paul serious consideration.
Fraternally,
Woody Menear PHL 767
You can vote now by clicking here[/font]
[font="Arial""]Dinsdale Meanar - What are your thinking? Are you thinking at all?[/font]
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Claxon and AAviator. Two peas in a pod. A marriage made in heaven.
How nice that you found each other. Your sure to be PM pals before long.
Claxon finally has somebody to love that revels in his postings.
You have access to your scope guy so I suggest you call him. I repeated to you exactly what he told me.
Try again. You posted all over me. The threats to the LCC group are right in character. My friends there could care less to merge with you a$$holes though.
And you and Silverman found each other to pork over your F/o s. after you got a fair merge. Pathetic
I am sure you will love the AA jump seat too. You get to use your seniority again to your advantage. Fine with you there too, right?
Cute..
A couple of years means two.
Lets add 11 months to that.
Who is the tool looking a gift horse in the mouth?
Unbelieveable..................................................
So tell me sunshine, lets assume you're right... and the numbers you throw out there are correct.. Absent AA ...
Whats in your pocket???
unreal...........................
I GOT mine.. how do you GET yours?
You take stupidity to a new level
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