Deep Pockets

[mck2fly]

being from NWA word today was they were going to open there wallet wide . when the time was right.

 

[North by Northwest]

being from NWA word today was they were going to open there wallet wide . when the time was right.

[post="233480"][/post]​

For?

 

[whlinder]

How do you post something and then become unregistered in the same day?

 

[USFlyer]

Well, as a US to NW convert, I would love if NW could pick-up US's BOS, LGA, PHL and DCA assets. I know NW's business model is to "serve the heartland", but the NE can be quite profitable if done right.

 

[JetClipper]

For?

[post="233627"][/post]​

I think NW had it's eye on some of US' East Coast assets a while ago. The question now would be "why?" The East Coast seems to be the biggest hotbed of LCC activity, and Northwest already has access to it through their code-shares with CO & DL.

 

[Kev3188]

I would think NW *might* resurrect PHL-AMS, and maybe some dormant routes out of DCA & LGA. Other than that, I'd have to agree that SkyTeam gives us a lot of access to the East Coast without a lot of exposure to LCC competition.

 

[wingwalker]

Well, as a US to NW convert, I would love if NW could pick-up US's BOS, LGA, PHL and DCA assets. I know NW's business model is to "serve the heartland", but the NE can be quite profitable if done right.

[post="235167"][/post]​

NW doesn't go looking for a fight with any other carriers, but any step foot on their turf they're ruthless. And the way the industry is today, NW is really defending it's stronghold (building up MKE again) and taking an oportunity (IND) where they know they have a big chance of winning.

I think that NW for the most part stays out of the east/west coast shuttles because they've tried them before and the competition was to great. The same for transcon flights. NW used to serve BOS - LAX,SFO,SEA. They may still serve SEA. The money just wasn't there.

I have heard talk that there may be some building up of flying in PHL. But that's just rumor that I've heard.


B)

 

[WorldTraveler]

NW doesn't go looking for a fight with any other carriers, but any step foot on their turf they're ruthless. B)

[post="235979"][/post]​

You are kidding, aren't you? So, far NW has defined its own turf as including the entire states of WI, MN, MI and pretty substantial portions of other midwest states. And they have gone to pick fights with other carriers - just smaller ones.

NW has got to be looking at where the industry will go. I can't honestly believe that they are going to be content to be in a partnership where DL is the dominant airline on the east coast and across the Atlantic. I wouldn't be at all surprised if NW decides to take a chunk of US' assets and in so doing may pull out of partnerships w/ at least DL and maybe CO. On the other hand, they may move in such a way as to finally acquire CO. Either way, I don't think NW's participation in Skyteam is for the long term. Keep in mind, they didn't really join voluntarily; they were dragged into it because Air France bought NW's longtime partner. Given some time and a few opportunities, NW will come up w/ a new solution where they are the dominant carrier.

NW doesn't play second fiddle to anyone.

 

[wingwalker]

You are kidding, aren't you? So, far NW has defined its own turf as including the entire states of WI, MN, MI and pretty substantial portions of other midwest states. And they have gone to pick fights with other carriers - just smaller ones.

I'm not kidding. But I did say NW does protect it's turf. They'll fight off any airlines, even smaller airlines (LCC). That's not picking a fight, it's defending one's turf. I also said that NW will take an opportunity if they have a winning chance. So, what was I kidding about?


😉

 

[RowUnderDCA]

I suspect that NW is rethinking its long term strategy. I suspect it cant be happy with SkyTeam compared to its past KLM involvement. It specifically expressed displeasure with DL's simplifares. It's got to now about DL's unrequited love for CO and those carrier's fleet commonality.

But what NW is thinking, I don't know. Pulling away from SkyTeam would mean losing a Euro partner.. who's left? Swiss, maybe. Grabbing U's PHL and maybe DCA/BOS operations might be a nice fit, but PHL still has some operational and market headaches. I understand that U's airbuses are compatible with NW, are they?

I don't think that NW would be interested in CLT.

 

[Kev3188]

I don't think that NW would be interested in CLT.

[post="236786"][/post]​

Agreed; that's what MEM is for....

 

[JetClipper]

NW has got to be looking at where the industry will go. I can't honestly believe that they are going to be content to be in a partnership where DL is the dominant airline on the east coast and across the Atlantic. I wouldn't be at all surprised if NW decides to take a chunk of US' assets and in so doing may pull out of partnerships w/ at least DL and maybe CO. On the other hand, they may move in such a way as to finally acquire CO. Either way, I don't think NW's participation in Skyteam is for the long term. Keep in mind, they didn't really join voluntarily; they were dragged into it because Air France bought NW's longtime partner. Given some time and a few opportunities, NW will come up w/ a new solution where they are the dominant carrier.

NW doesn't play second fiddle to anyone.

[post="236017"][/post]​

You're the one that's kidding now, right?

I think NWA realizes one of the strengths of their route network is that it insulates them fairly well from low-cost competition. Why go head-to-head with LCCs on the East Coast when (as I mentioned earlier) they can provide service there via "proxy."

As for NWA's SkyTeam membership, I believe they are in it for the long term. Richard Anderson said over and over again how important entering a global alliance is to NWA's strategy. They now have partners in nearly every important aviation market in the world.

I agree that NW was not happy with DL's recent fare action, but I do not think that displeasure will lead them to break-up their alliance. The old pricing strategies should have been thrown out long ago; Delta just had the guts to start the process.

 

[whlinder]

Hmmm.... maybe the endgame for NW and AA is to each pick up some pieces of US and for NW/AA to hook up as NW leaves SkyTeam for oneWorld. NW/AA adding some US strongholds to their newtwork, plus both of them codesharing with AS would be a very strong network.

 

[wingwalker]

You're the one that's kidding now, right?

I think NWA realizes one of the strengths of their route network is that it insulates them fairly well from low-cost competition. Why go head-to-head with LCCs on the East Coast when (as I mentioned earlier) they can provide service there via "proxy."

As for NWA's SkyTeam membership, I believe they are in it for the long term. Richard Anderson said over and over again how important entering a global alliance is to NWA's strategy. They now have partners in nearly every important aviation market in the world.

I agree that NW was not happy with DL's recent fare action, but I do not think that displeasure will lead them to break-up their alliance. The old pricing strategies should have been thrown out long ago; Delta just had the guts to start the process.

[post="237038"][/post]​

Agree 110%
B)

 

[firstamendment]

PHILLY?

That place is a mess!! You WOULD do better to take on Charlotte. Memphis is more midwest (remember BNA was a midwest hub for AA). Charlotte is a very business savy city and would welcome any airline that would make it a player. The airport is easy to get around and just finished a nice addition to the international terminal.

We have a great deal of Caribbean and CLT..along with FLL ( I know there are critiques) would be wonderful cities to fly out of. I would say, if I could decide, buy the airbuses, the rights to all Caribbean and Europe and build up CLT and FLL. The rest of our sytem either has too much of a lcc dogfight (thanks US) or is a mess (PHL).

You guys, learn a lesson from US Airways. Stay where you have dominance and fight to keep it that way. Don't give SWA or any LCC a foothold in your market.

Ok, I know the trash will start flying. I'm just being selfish because I live in CLT. 😀 😛