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It is amusing that, although I am personally and professionally conservative (my wife would put it, "..a tightwad Boy Scout"), for purposes of this forum, I am 'liberal'.

Well. Liberal in the tradition of Jefferson? Sure. Locke? Yes.

Liberal in the fact I am not a 'dittohead'? You better believe it.

Liberal in the Limbaughian world of weak-kneed pacifism, where mama government meets all needs? NO!

Unfortunately, the Limbaugh/Cheney world would have you believe there are only two options. For 'us', and hence, for Iraq, or against 'us', and hence French-speaking appeasers.

Anyone old enough to vote knows the world is not that simple (perhaps with Bush's wattage, two options are all he CAN entertain).

I am all for getting after bin Laden - I'd snatch his ass up if he were sipping high tea with the queen of England, and frog-march him to the gallows. I am all for rolling up al Qaeda, and its cousins. I would consider the latest brand of jihad terrorism to justify 'hot pursuit'.

Al Qaeda is not confined to, or by, nation-states, although nation-states, notably Saudi Arabia (who's sons also manned the hijacked airliners) have aided and abetted them.

If we nuked Iraq, to let God, or Allah sort them out, we would not have contained or destroyed al Qaeda. We would not be less likely to suffer further terrorist attacks.

Defeating al Qaeda will take more patience, a more realistic world view, and a nuance we have not seen, as of yet. It will also take an ability to meld dissimiliar interests, as Bush I did in the Gulf War, a skill in which Bush II is lacking.

In the meanwhile, I pray for and support our troops, especially my cousin who's Guard unit is in country.

Shoot straight, and stay safe.
 
Farenheit 9/11 Trailer

Includes a nice piece on how Bush allowed jets carrying Bin Ladens family to leave while all commmerical airlines were grounded! :shock: :angry:
 
Unconvinced, dude.

From the last few paragraphs, it appears sub-standard jobs are replacing decent ones.

For sure, Bush wants to lead us into the 20's - the 1920's.
 
I know what you meant, but the 1920s are a better analogy to the 1990s than the 2000s. The 1930s would be a better match for the 2000s.
 
mweiss said:
I know what you meant, but the 1920s are a better analogy to the 1990s than the 2000s. The 1930s would be a better match for the 2000s.
when you say the 1930's would be a better match to the 2000's exactly what are you implying? that this era compares to nazi germany? :lol: :lol: :lol: WATCH OUT THERE WEISS THE SS STORM TROOPERS ARE OVERHEAD IN THIER BLACK HELICOPTER'S ready to capture and send you to the inferno! :lol: :lol: :lol: i suppose your one of those who have also been visited by space aliens and anally probed in the confines of your bedroom during a deep sleep :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
I was speaking economically, not politically, though the political analogy isn't as far off as you make it sound.
 
delldude said:
GUESS ITS ALL A SMOKE SCREEN?? :lol:
THE TRUTH HURTS :up:
Construction employment rose by 32,000 in May, with 91,000 new jobs added since January
HIGH PAYING,NON BURGER FLIPPERS...ITS CLIMBING AND WON'T STOP !
lots of sheet metal worker jobs on the books where i'm from...spins off to other trades too.maybe the media isn't telling the truth??
I CAN'T BELEIVE THAT ! :shock:
 
Dell, only you could be proud of a guy that might break even!
 
From Harding In 1921 to Bush in 2003:


* Democrats held White House for 40 years and Republicans for 42.5 years.


* Democrats created 75,820,000 net new jobs -- Republicans 36,440,000.


* Per Year Average—Democrats 1,825,200---Republicans 856,400.


* Republicans had 9 presidents during the period and 6 had depression or recession.


* DOW—grew by 52% more under Democrats.


* GDP—grew by 43% more under Democrats.

😛

And you know you can expect more of the same under Kerry! :up:
 
sentrido said:
From Harding In 1921 to Bush in 2003:


* Democrats held White House for 40 years and Republicans for 42.5 years.


* Democrats created 75,820,000 net new jobs -- Republicans 36,440,000.


* Per Year Average—Democrats 1,825,200---Republicans 856,400.


* Republicans had 9 presidents during the period and 6 had depression or recession.


* DOW—grew by 52% more under Democrats.


* GDP—grew by 43% more under Democrats.

😛

And you know you can expect more of the same under Kerry! :up:
And you know you can expect more of the same under Kerry! :up:
but what does he stand for? he just keeps changing his position depending who he's talking too.
From Harding In 1921 to Bush in 2003:
apples to oranges sir....or hasn't the economy and industry changed that much since then?? :shock:
* Republicans had 9 presidents during the period and 6 had depression or recession.
is it because they were stuck holding the bag left by the dem's?
 
Is that the best you can do? Whine about being stuck with the bag? Guess the truth does hurt.

Anyway, heres my Leftist liberal response to your bull!@#$ lets define Kerry before they can get to know the real him flip flopper allusion. Abbreviated of course.

President Bush: Flip-Flopper-In-Chief

June 1, 2004

From the beginning, George W. Bush has made his own credibility a central issue. On 10/11/00, then Governor Bush said: "I think credibility is important. It is going to be important for the president to be credible with Congress, important for the president to be credible with foreign nations." But President Bush's serial flip-flopping raises serious questions about whether Congress and foreign leaders can rely on what he says.

1. OPEC
BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES...
...BUSH REFUSES TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS
2. Iraq Funding
BUSH SPOKESMAN DENIES NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE REST OF 2004...
…BUSH REQUESTS ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IRAQ FOR 2004
3. Condoleeza Rice Testimony
BUSH SPOKESMAN SAYS RICE WON'T TESTIFY AS 'A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE'... 
…BUSH ORDERS RICE TO TESTIFY 
4. Science
BUSH PLEDGES TO ISSUE REGULATIONS BASED ON SCIENCE...
...BUSH ADMINISTRATION REGULATIONS IGNORE SCIENCE
5. Ahmed Chalabi
BUSH INVITES CHALABI TO STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS...
...BUSH MILITARY ASSISTS IN RAID OF CHALABI'S HOUSE
6. Department of Homeland Security
BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY...
...BUSH SUPPORTS THE DEPARTMENT  OF HOMELAND SECURITY
7. Weapons of Mass Destruction
BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION...
...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
8. Free Trade
BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE...
...BUSH SUPPORTS RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE
9. Osama Bin Laden
BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE...
...BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA
10. The Environment
BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE...
...BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE
11. WMD Commission
BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE...
...BUSH SUPPORTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE
12. Creation of the 9/11 Commission
BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION...
...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION
13. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission
BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION...
...BUSH SUPPORTS TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION
14. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony
BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR...
...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR TESTIMONY
15. Gay Marriage
BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE...
...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE
16. Nation Building
BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING...
...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING
17. Saddam/al Qaeda Link
BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM...
...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT
18. U.N. Resolution
BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT...
...BUSH WITHDRAWS REQUEST FOR VOTE
19. Involvement in the Palestinian Conflict
BUSH OPPOSES SUMMITS...
...BUSH SUPPORTS SUMMITS
20. Campaign Finance
BUSH OPPOSES MCCAIN-FEINGOLD...
...BUSH SIGNS MCCAIN-FEINGOLD INTO LAW


Dude! you got a Dubya!
 
sentrido said:
5. Ahmed Chalabi
BUSH INVITES CHALABI TO STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS...
...BUSH MILITARY ASSISTS IN RAID OF CHALABI'S HOUSE
Let's not forget the press conference where he pretty much said "Chalabi who?"
 
mweiss said:
I know what you meant, but the 1920s are a better analogy to the 1990s than the 2000s. The 1930s would be a better match for the 2000s.
Well, the Depression officially began in 1929, and we're not there, yet.

I have every confidence Hoover II can get us there, though.

And I'm glad you caught the unspoken inference on the political front - quasi-facism is fashionable again.

members.rogers.com/roots53/3.pdf

http://www.eclectica.org/v1n1/reviews/wharton_plot.html
 
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