Don't be duped into being the Teamsters bailout fools

What you said made no sense but you have always seen the world thru TWU glass's tell me are you on board with the IBT yet?

Tell me this. Why are you in charge of the printing of envelopes? If the AMFA truly had their heart into this don't you think simple error's like having the wrong logo on the mailing envelope wouldn't happen? The hoax is alive and well, trying to dupe the membership once again...lmao
 
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Tell me this. Why are you in charge of the printing of envelopes? If the AMFA truly had their heart into this don't you think simple error's like having the wrong logo on the mailing envelope wouldn't happen? The hoax is alive and well, trying to dupe the membership once again...lmao

Thanks for asking AMFA does not run everything and tell us what to do and how to think, we are expected to do things for ourselves and in this case I hired a firm in south Tulsa to do the mailout. They had done mailouts before for AMP and the lady printing the envelopes made a simple mistake and loaded the wrong logo. AMFA does not micro manage everything like the industrial unions IAM/TWU/IBT they believe in grassroot organizing where the people that want change make the change, they do not send in paid organizers to tell people what they want to hear and what they can do for them, they expect the leaders to come from within and so while the IBT said they are raiding the TWU, ours is not a raid it is a revolt no one came to tulsa to organize us we went to AMFA to get rid of the TWU there is a difference.

Remember,There is only One Mechanic's Union...
 
Thanks for asking AMFA does not run everything and tell us what to do and how to think we are expected to do things for ourselves and in this case I hired a firm in south Tulsa to do the mailout they had done mailouts before for AMP and the lady printing the envelopes made a simple mistake and load the wrong logo. AMFA does not micro manage everything like the industrial unions IAM/TWU/IBT they believe in grassroot organizing where the people that want change make the change they do not send in paid organizers to tell people what they want to hear they expect the leaders to come from within and so while the IBT said they are raiding the TWU ours is not a raid it is a revolt no one came to tulsa to organize us we went to AMFA to get rid of the TWU there is a difference.

Remember,There is only One Mechanic's Union...

Just as I thought. "Rag Tag" operation.....
 
Tell me this. Why are you in charge of the printing of envelopes? If the AMFA truly had their heart into this don't you think simple error's like having the wrong logo on the mailing envelope wouldn't happen? The hoax is alive and well, trying to dupe the membership once again...lmao
Hey dude, I am part of the membership and I am an AMFA supporter so am I duping myself? Do you even know what a union is? Your own local officers get removed from office when they expose secret nominations to the international. What kind of organization is that BS? How come the membership doesnt get a say on who they want to nominate from their own local? What you have is an employee association thats more concerned with welfare and entertainment at union meetings than real issues.
 
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TEAMSTERS LOOK TO ORGANIZE AA MECHANICS TO FUND PENSION LOSSES

June 28, 2012: The Central States Pension Fund's 2011 Financial and Analytical Reports show that the fund was down to $17.7 billion at the end of 2011.
Fund assets dipped from $19.9 billion at the start of 2011, to $17.7 at the end of the year. The fund made zero on investments during the year; in fact there was a loss of .28%, attributed to poor stock market performance.
The reports—which were received by Teamsters for a Democratic Union in early June—also reveal in more detail decisions regarding YRC Teamsters, and a new rule on withdrawal liability.


The fund is in serious condition and could possibly be insolvent within a decade. The International Union—in alliance with other unions and allies such as the AARP—needs to launch a grassroots movement aimed at strengthening the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC) to protect all workers' pensions, such as the bill introduced by Senator Robert Casey (D-Pa) two years ago. Behind the scenes lobbying isn't working. Teamsters and retirees are ready to join in to defend our pensions.

The Hoffa administration, after opening the door with the UPS pull-out, has not made stopping further withdrawals from the fund a priority.

YRC on "Distressed Employer Schedule"

The report details that in 2011 the Trustees of the fund decided to accept the low contribution rate of about $1.75 per hour from YRC. However, approximately 12,000 participants employed by Holland and YRC were put on a "distressed employer schedule" which basically eliminated all early retirement options, with the remaining benefit being the accrued benefit at age 65, or sharply reduced for earlier retirement.
The fund had 67,815 active participants as of November 2011, and 213,647 retirees.
The fund is heavily dependent on investment success. In fact, to maintain its present level of assets, it has to make 12% on investments this year. This is well above any reasonable projection.


Teamsters for a Democratic Union members won the right to obtain quarterly reports in federal court. These 2011 reports were delayed due to the fact that the previous Special Counsel passed away in January. The new Special Counsel is retired federal judge David Coar.
 
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Benefits Committee Update
On Thursday July 12, 2012, the Benefits Committee convened in LAX to receive a presentation on the WCTPT, (Western Conference of Teamsters Pension Trust), from administrator Walter Pentz. Much information was given, and the plan administrator had some questions of his own. Through the Q&A process it was revealed our combined work group, s-CAL & s-UAL, has an average age of 51.1 yrs, posing a potential problem with the group being accepting into the Plan.
Later in the day the presentation was shared with the entire committee followed by another Q&A session.
As discussed in past updates, the multiemployer WCTPT is only ONE type of pension option being looked into as a viable negotiating position. Many factors will be taken into consideration before the committee will make a recommendation to all the members.
The Benefits Committee will be meeting to discuss the information gathered and make sure consultant, Pete Hardcastle has all the up to date info so an accurate comparison, including the WCTPT, can be completed.
 
TEAMSTERS LOOK TO ORGANIZE AA MECHANICS TO FUND PENSION LOSSES

June 28, 2012: The Central States Pension Fund's 2011 Financial and Analytical Reports show that the fund was down to $17.7 billion at the end of 2011.
Fund assets dipped from $19.9 billion at the start of 2011, to $17.7 at the end of the year. The fund made zero on investments during the year; in fact there was a loss of .28%, attributed to poor stock market performance.
The reports—which were received by Teamsters for a Democratic Union in early June—also reveal in more detail decisions regarding YRC Teamsters, and a new rule on withdrawal liability.


The fund is in serious condition and could possibly be insolvent within a decade. The International Union—in alliance with other unions and allies such as the AARP—needs to launch a grassroots movement aimed at strengthening the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC) to protect all workers' pensions, such as the bill introduced by Senator Robert Casey (D-Pa) two years ago. Behind the scenes lobbying isn't working. Teamsters and retirees are ready to join in to defend our pensions.

The Hoffa administration, after opening the door with the UPS pull-out, has not made stopping further withdrawals from the fund a priority.

YRC on "Distressed Employer Schedule"

The report details that in 2011 the Trustees of the fund decided to accept the low contribution rate of about $1.75 per hour from YRC. However, approximately 12,000 participants employed by Holland and YRC were put on a "distressed employer schedule" which basically eliminated all early retirement options, with the remaining benefit being the accrued benefit at age 65, or sharply reduced for earlier retirement.
The fund had 67,815 active participants as of November 2011, and 213,647 retirees.
The fund is heavily dependent on investment success. In fact, to maintain its present level of assets, it has to make 12% on investments this year. This is well above any reasonable projection.


Teamsters for a Democratic Union members won the right to obtain quarterly reports in federal court. These 2011 reports were delayed due to the fact that the previous Special Counsel passed away in January. The new Special Counsel is retired federal judge David Coar.

Wait I thought AMFA organizers official stand was that the drive isn't real, if it's not real then how can they fund the Pension ?? by spending 100,000+ on a fake card drive without expecting to recoup that money through dues, make up your mind either the drive is Real & they want AA Mechanics money for their Pension or it's fake & has nothing to do with funding the Pension.
 
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I am just posting information. Go bark up some other tree.

You and nobody else in our work group can answer factually what the ibt intentions are, so of course there will be confusion as to why they are here, and more importantly why the TWU remains silent about it.

But you can bet, there is a RAT somewhere.

I can tell you what my intentions are, and I can tell you why AMFA would be interested becoming your National Organization of Representation.

And it has nothing to with underfunded pensions, or some agreement between industrial unions to divvy up work groups in some new grand scheme worked out behind closed doors.

But I know you have it all figured out and will share with those that need to know answers.
 
Wait I thought AMFA organizers official stand was that the drive isn't real, if it's not real then how can they fund the Pension ?? by spending 100,000+ on a fake card drive without expecting to recoup that money through dues, make up your mind either the drive is Real & they want AA Mechanics money for their Pension or it's fake & has nothing to do with funding the Pension.

Flag!

You asked the AMFA organizers to be more expressive with more exposure. It would appear you got what you wanted.
 
I agree that no one knows for sure what their real intentions are its pure speculations, try turning a Teamsters card in without a date or signature .... You get a call everyday until it is fixed, they sure make a big deal about every card if their just going to throw them away & are putting a lot of effort into identifying weak areas etc....... Sure feels real if involved at any level of the drive..... Just my perception.
 
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