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[tom barry]

Am I understanding this correctly.
That any AA station with less than 20 flights per day will be "farmed out" ?
Does this mean a combo of AA main line AND A/E flights ?

 

[wings396]

Based on what they did at US, only mainline flts factor into that count. I must say that the number that AA came up with is shocking. At US I believe that we must maintain 56 mainline flts per week in order to keep our own people.

 

[Kev3188]

Yes. Farming out a station with 20 mainline flts or less is what AA is aiming for. Whether or not they get it? We'll see... Time for Little & Co. to start, you know, representing their membership.

 

[JFK Fleet Service]

Who's Jim Little? 😉

 

[AANOTOK]

Who's Jim Little? 😉

And at the hubs (DFW, MIA, ORD ETC...) they are outsourcing ALL high seniority jobs, even if it's
working right beside a TWU represented employee. One example is in the bagroom they want to outsource
the encode job which is the most senior job in that work area. It is obvious they want senior guys so miserable
that they make them retire. All cargo handling which is extremely high in seniority at DFW is on the chopping block.
Bag expedite on the ramp, high seniority, outsourced. And the list goes on....

 

[lineguy]

There ought to be some way you can all get togrther and make management feel your pain.

 

[AANOTOK]

There ought to be some way you can all get togrther and make management feel your pain.

In my work area, as a CC and employee of 29 years, believe me it is happening.
The difference from the day before the "Term Sheet" and the day after is simply amazing.

 

[WorldTraveler]

In my work area, as a CC and employee of 29 years, believe me it is happening.
The difference from the day before the "Term Sheet" and the day after is simply amazing.

while not surprising, what are some of the practical ways this is happening?

 

[Kev3188]

And at the hubs (DFW, MIA, ORD ETC...) they are outsourcing ALL high seniority jobs, even if it's
working right beside a TWU represented employee.

Same thing is happening at DL in MSP and other places. CC positions in the tower/bagrooms/transfer points will all be eliminated, and replaced with management. Streak drivers are already gone (AMT escorts, getting planes ready to move, etc.). All are/were senior positions.

 

[eolesen]

Yes. Farming out a station with 20 mainline flts or less is what AA is aiming for. Whether or not they get it? We'll see... Time for Little & Co. to start, you know, representing their membership.

Subtle correction... management is aiming for the FLEXIBILITY to farm out a station with 20 or less flights.

 

[JFK Fleet Service]

Come on E,you know full well they will avail themselves of that flexibility.

Talk is they're going back to '92 for F/T @ LGA,manager of ramp services says '94 according to her numbers.

 

[wings396]

Subtle correction... management is aiming for the FLEXIBILITY to farm out a station with 20 or less flights.

No, it means they will do it as soon as they can. US put the wheels in motion before the ink was dry on the bk contract. They want the flexibility to do it so they can.

 

[wings396]

while not surprising, what are some of the practical ways this is happening?

Yea, that's something that he is going clarify on a public forum. There is no doubt in my mind that you are management now......

 

[WorldTraveler]

I can assure you that I manage nothing in the aviation industry, let alone at AA.
It is pretty doubtful that whatever tactics are being used aren't known to mgmt - or won't be pretty soon.
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It also remains that if AA employees decide to "take it out on the company" they only run the risk that the company's plan won't work and they will end up coming back for more. There are more than enough cases of airlines that have come back for seconds and remaining in BK allows them the flexibility to make sure things find a new normal before emerging and giving up the right to impose changes as much as they are.
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So, I'll ask another question which may not be perceived wrong...
What is the likelihood that FSCs in these small cities which will be cut will move to the hubs... ? any sense of their relative seniority as a group to those at the hubs (both from a retirement perspective and where they would fit in at the large hubs that will keep AA ramp)?

 

[wings396]

If you have a lot of time, you have 2 options......retire or relocate. If you have been in the business for a long time, and are middle age there isn't much out there for you. Not saying that you won't find another job, just that it will be at a lousy wage. Been there, done that.....