Fbi's On The Case

[TWU informer]

The AMFA mechanics deferred everything just before the strike. Nothing was fixed for almost a week. When the time limits were up the aircraft had to be parked because there were no parts to fix them. The AMFA mechanics threw away and destroyed the parts. Katrina cant compete with the way the AMFA mechanics left the LMO's. All MC does is generate the MEL number the mechanics generate the MEL in the first place.

[post="296734"][/post]​

What a guy!

Compare your version of Maintenance issues to the disaster that Katrina caused.

You need to stop posting and take a look at your television for an understanding of what is happening in the south. You have a severe misunderstanding of the human suffering taking place due to Katrina.

Talk about clueless, your statement beats anything I have seen on this bulletin board.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

The parts were not on the aircraft. Northwest had a crew that went out everynight to dig LRU's out of the dumpsters. You know, the ones that crush.

 

[TWU informer]

The parts were not on the aircraft. Northwest had a crew that went out everynight to dig LRU's out of the dumpsters. You know, the ones that crush.

[post="296739"][/post]​

Yeah, and Katrina has killed, tortured, and left devastation.

And you think the missing parts do not compare?

You are one sick human!

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Lets also not forget about the sudden rise in accidents involving ground equipment striking the static ports. That an entire team had to be put together to fix the aircraft.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

It took most of the first week to put the LMO's back together again. There was not a single working tire gauge left. The servicing pumps had skydrol and 5606 mixed together in them. Feces in the lockers and on the floor hardware was comingled breakroom furniture was cut up raincoats sliced up shall I go on?

 

[PlayTheOdds]

It couldn’t have happened to a better city but that isn’t the subject here

 

[Bob Owens]

PlayTheOdds,Sep 5 2005, 12:52 PM]
RDU I must agree the psychology behind all of this is very exciting. Anything is possible but I'm certain no has happened here. The shear destruction that was left here and the huge backlog of MEL's is enough evidence for me that AMFA is fully capable of the sabotage with out any help from the scabs.


Backlog of MELs evidence? Were the items valid or not? The fact is airplanes break by themselves, thats why there are mechanics. Most companies dont man for repairs, they man for scheduled maintenance, if they cant fix the extra items within the downtime they call OT. Did NWA stop holding OT prior to the strike?How many hours in excess of 40 do you work a week?


The incompetence you speak of you will find in any group whether it be union or not. The scabs that didn't have a clue has been weeded out.


Have they?How many have been fired?

Had they been union though they would still be here.

Rediculous, you guys have only been there a few weeks, if you were Union none of you would be off probation yet, probation allows the company to get rid of incompetant workers no questions asked, even if someone manages to sneak through probation the company can still get rid of "clueless" workers, it just takes more effort. Its management that usually leaves such workers in place, blaming it on the union, that has a fiduciary duty (because the member pays dues) to defend the members job, because coworkers are usually put off when they see a worker who should not be there being kept on by the union. Its a way of smearing unionism.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

PlayTheOdds,Sep 5 2005, 12:52 PM]

Backlog of MELs evidence? Were the items valid or not?
There were over 600 MEL’s when we took over. Then the pilots and flight attendants generated another 500+. In two weeks we have dropped that to 267. Our goal is to have no more than 150 at any given time.

Have they?How many have been fired? I believe five now.

Rediculous, you guys have only been there a few weeks, if you were Union none of you would be off probation yet, probation allows the company to get rid of incompetant workers no questions asked, even if someone manages to sneak through probation the company can still get rid of "clueless" workers, it just takes more effort. Its management that usually leaves such workers in place, blaming it on the union, that has a fiduciary duty (because the member pays dues) to defend the members job, because coworkers are usually put off when they see a worker who should not be there being kept on by the union. Its a way of smearing unionism.
This is so untrue. Your good buddy, brother-in-law rules that run under the table nul and voids all other rules. “more effortâ€￾? You mean a lot more effort.

 

[AP Tech]

The parts were not on the aircraft. Northwest had a crew that went out everynight to dig LRU's out of the dumpsters

And after they dug them out of the dumpsters they used them on the aircraft? I am under the assumption they all had servicable tags on them? How was the condition of the LRU's verified? Sounds like some violations to me!! I surely hope they were all sent to the vendors for testing!! Sounds like safety really takes a front seat at NWA. No wonder they assigned the one safety inspector to a desk job...he was actually doing his job!!

 

[PlayTheOdds]

The parts were not on the aircraft. Northwest had a crew that went out everynight to dig LRU's out of the dumpsters

And after they dug them out of the dumpsters they used them on the aircraft? I am under the assumption they all had servicable tags on them? How was the condition of the LRU's verified?

[post="297087"][/post]​

Most didn't survive the crushing however all were sent out to be evaluated. None had tags. Are you so ignorant to think that they would be used?

 

[Bob Owens]

Most didn't survive the crushing however all were sent out to be evaluated. None had tags. Are you so ignorant to think that they would be used?

[post="297092"][/post]​

With scabs it wouldnt suprise me if they were.

 

[Bob Owens]

This is so untrue. Your good buddy, brother-in-law rules that run under the table nul and voids all other rules. “more effortâ€￾? You mean a lot more effort.

[post="297072"][/post]​

Good buddy, brother-in-law rules? What are you talking about? Show me the language in any airline contract that prevents companies from firing incompetant mechanics. If incompetant mechanics are out there its the fault of management for not documenting their shortcomings and not noticing the incompetance during probation. The fact is that other mechanics dont want to work with incompetant ones and the company blames the union for not getting rid of them. The fact is that Republican politicians pushed through legislation defining the duty of fair representation that unions must adhere to. If the union fails to represent the member he can sue which could leave the union liable for the members losses.

I've worked both union and non-union and they had incompetant mechanics at the non-union places, usually they were suck ups to the boss.

 

[AP Tech]

There were over 600 MEL’s when we took over. Then the pilots and flight attendants generated another 500+. In two weeks we have dropped that to 267.

Sorry, but I seem to be a bit confused? You guys did such a great job clearing hundreds of MEL's in a two week period, but in the same breath you state most of the LRU's were pulled from a dumpster and were sent out to be bench tested and returned servicable? Would love to know the vendor NWA is using that has that kind of turn around time? Nobody is that fast unless the fleet is running on loaner parts?

 

[Opus]

It took most of the first week to put the LMO's back together again. There was not a single working tire gauge left. The servicing pumps had skydrol and 5606 mixed together in them. Feces in the lockers and on the floor hardware was comingled breakroom furniture was cut up raincoats sliced up shall I go on?

[post="296744"][/post]​

Play the Odds, sadly all of this is true and SO SO MUCH MORE, for the things some of these guys did they should never be allowed to touch and airplane again much less hold an airport secruity clearance. Calling a strike is one thing but destruction of the magnitude they left should be prosecuted!!!!!!!!! It is just my guess but I am guessing NW is gathering all the info on the destruction for one big case against AMFA and some individuals. I know one of the guys who crossed the line and he is very nice and good to work with and he said we are doing better work than his "union brothers" ever did, apparently took and act of God to get them out of the break room, apparently they prefered to play board games then actually work!!!!

 

[chasbatl]

And we are to believe the word of the lowest scum on the earth as to the condition AMFA members supposedly left the company in? Somehow i find it hard to believe that someone with such low morals that they resort to being a scab would have the moral integrity to not lie to try and make themselves look better. Nice try though just dont expect many people to believe it.