First 757 to outsourced MRO

[eolesen]

Now E, don't forget that those UP or BNSF trains go in both directions, and those containers that are most likely headed for the port of Long Beach CA. are also being EXPORTED !

Maybe a discussion for over in the Cooler, but lots of the containers heading west are empty, G....


Back on topic... How rare is it for AFW or TUL to miss a date?

 

[Bob Owens]

Maybe a discussion for over in the Cooler, but lots of the containers heading west are empty, G....


Back on topic... How rare is it for AFW or TUL to miss a date?

My guess is they sent Timco what they thought were the cleanest C checks they could find.

 

[MCI transplant]

Is AA sending anyone from QA in to oversee the first four?

<_< ------ They tryed to talk one of our retired, AA/TWA, MCI, QA Managers, into doing just that.----- I understand he turned them down.

 

[Bob Owens]

The length of time the plane is out of service is of no real consequence right now, since every analyst has been calling for AA to reduce capacity due to high fuel prices and slack demand. If Timco's price is right, it probably doesn't matter how long it takes. The time a plane is out of service matters a whole hell of a lot more when flying it produces profits (not a situation facing AA since 2007).

Since when should people run their business based on what analysts say?

As AA sheds leases the turn times will become more critical than ever.

 

[Bob Owens]

I live near one of the mainlines between California and Illinois: 44 trains a day, of which 30+ are container trains and another six or seven are auto-racks coming in a direction from which there are no factories... in the US, that is.

so I guess when you aren't here you are counting trains?

 

[MCI transplant]

Then why bother sending them to Timco? Obvious they need them, not enough to warrant pushing back some mods but badly enough to blow the budget by doing the mods and the heavy checks at the same time.

<_< ------- Yea! But they closed MCI, rght?

 

[1AA]

so I guess when you aren't here you are counting trains?

Is that the same as counting sheep? 😛

 

[Birdman]

Today is day 30 and the ETA has been extended to the 16th, a 35 day check if they make extended ETA. Our 757 heavy checks go 24-25 days with a disgruntled workforce. Word has it they also have a lighter bill of work. Our test hop pilots are extremely thorough and could be a hand full for Timco. E, I think AA maintenance stock may be on the rise. BTW, who said MRO's were a 7 day operation?

 

[WorldTraveler]

the first outsourced aircraft in a series always takes longer.. and hopefully it means things are being done right.

 

[FWAAA]

Today is day 30 and the ETA has been extended to the 16th, a 35 day check if they make extended ETA. Our 757 heavy checks go 24-25 days with a disgruntled workforce. Word has it they also have a lighter bill of work. Our test hop pilots are extremely thorough and could be a hand full for Timco. E, I think AA maintenance stock may be on the rise. BTW, who said MRO's were a 7 day operation?

Here's what AA tells the public about how long it takes to perform heavy checks:

Narrowbody "C" Checks
American does two types of "C" checks on its narrowbody planes. The first is a "Light C" check, which occurs approximately every 15 - 18 months. It requires approximately 2,100 man-hours and three days to accomplish. Every fourth "Light C" check becomes a "Heavy C" check. This check requires 20,000 - 30,000 man-hours and takes from three to five weeks to accomplish.

35 days would appear to be within the normal range.

 

[Buck]

Maybe a discussion for over in the Cooler, but lots of the containers heading west are empty, G....


Back on topic... How rare is it for AFW or TUL to miss a date?

As rare as it is for management to plan for it....

 

[Buck]

<_< ------- Yea! But they closed MCI, rght?

Are you suggesting or indicating that any AA aircraft could or would fare better if not meeting its AA OH Heavy check time, an open MCI OH could be used to help improve the yields?

 

[Overspeed]

the first outsourced aircraft in a series always takes longer.. and hopefully it means things are being done right.

True statement. In fact AA has a "learning curve" calculated and it usually takes 15 checks before you get it down. The first check of a new fleet introduction can take up to 2.5 times as long the first time through compared to the 15th time. Nobody can do a job as fast as they can the first time as they can after they have learned the job.

 

[Rogallo]

True statement. In fact AA has a "learning curve" calculated and it usually takes 15 checks before you get it down. The first check of a new fleet introduction can take up to 2.5 times as long the first time through compared to the 15th time. Nobody can do a job as fast as they can the first time as they can after they have learned the job.

Has Timco even done 757 heavy checks before AA??

 

[chris perry]

Are you shitting me 35 days sounds normal????? Also the gear has also been changed bye DWH and a b check done prior to induction.This Airplane is already way overdue....