First Eastern Winter Storm of Season

[US Oringinal]

Does anyone in Tempe or OCC understand the meaning of PRE-EMPITVE CANCELLATION??

I witnessed PHL airport Staurday afternoon and night and it was a FIASCO....and a whole lot of the misery could have and should have been avoided by cancelling flights Friday night and early Saturday into and out of DCA, BWI, PHL, LGA....

1300 passengers were stranded in PHL Saturday night...and it could have been avoided. The storm and its intensity was no surprise to anyone except, apparently, our mgmt....

US was still telling passengers up to 6pm Saturday night that our flights to Europe were running on-time and to come to the airport for their flights.... AT THE HEIGHT OF A BLIZZARD!!!

Inexcusable...

 

[Travelpro72]

Bonuses for everyone. How sad the company has such regard for our paying passengers. 🙄

 

[violet]

FYI: That A332 (79114) was a charter trip for the Pitt Panthers; not a ferry flight for crews

 

[Travelpro72]

All three legs of the pairing?

 

[N924PS]

While this will certainly not solve the problem, it will hopefully encourage airlines to act responsibly so that they do not come close to the 3-hour tarmac limit.

The airlines don't delay the flights, the FAA does.

One problem "solved" another one created. Our government at its finest.

Wait until you see how healthcare reform turns out!

 

[Travelpro72]

While the root of the problem for the most part is a dilapidated ATC system sometimes the delays fall on the airlines. Know how many times I have sat on a plane for almost two hours waiting for a gate in PHL? Let's see, no agent, mtc a/c on the gate etc. Not letting the FAA off the hook but once your off the gate the airlines don't want you back on the gate AT ALL. They'd rather you sit out on a 737 in the summer with no engines running and nothing but a stale biscoff cookie and a cup of water. At that sometimes you'll have a crew who will flip a quarter in the galley whether to do a water service or not. Bravo to the government. No more going out and getting in a lineup of 65 airplanes to "make some money". 🙄

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

Just had a look at flightstats.com.
Days after the storm, the airports are pretty much back to snuff. Yet Republic and Air Wisconsin cancellations abound. Now some Express operations are, in fact, cancelled at the behest of mainline OCC. But that is usually on bad ATC days when they will protect mainline flying (bigger planes = more people per plane). I don't think today's problems were ATC related.

At a couple airports I checked on flightstats.com, the o n l y cancellations were those of US/USE. Not that everyone else was on time. But they did fly.

http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus...tusByAirport.do

http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus...tusByAirport.do

 

[Dog Wonder]

The airlines don't delay the flights, the FAA does.

Please make that announcement on the CLT-HNL flight.

 

[Travelpro72]

Bloody Hell that post caught me off guard.

 

[autofixer]

Bravo to the government. No more going out and getting in a lineup of 65 airplanes to "make some money". 🙄
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You obviously don't understand. Now we can taxi out and sit for 2.5 hours; then taxi back to the gate, change the flight number and start the clock all over again or just cancel. The government are a bunch of idiots.

 

[Travelpro72]

Well it may not be the best decision for all instances but it sure will put an end to those delays that make the news. They shouldn't happen be it the fault of the ATC or the airlines. Sorry but it had to happen. Think the airlines were gonna make any positive changes in THEIR control? Uh huh.

 

[ClueByFour]

FYI: That A332 (79114) was a charter trip for the Pitt Panthers; not a ferry flight for crews

On a 332? Methinks not.

You obviously don't understand. Now we can taxi out and sit for 2.5 hours; then taxi back to the gate, change the flight number and start the clock all over again or just cancel. The government are a bunch of idiots.

Or, not schedule an airport to the point of needing a 2.5 hour taxi. Only someone getting paid while that's happening thinks it is a good idea. The feds are doing this to avoid people callling the cops when being held hostage on the tarmac and to prevent someone from popping a slide and stepping off. Were I on a jury for the latter, it's a vote to acquit...

 

[Phoenix]

Four of these International inbound flights ended up diverting to PIT, and all of them were A330's,

I wonder if they diverted to PIT because they weren't allowed to carry enough divert fuel to make it to CLT... Just saying'.

 

[BuffaloJoe]

I wonder if they diverted to PIT because they weren't allowed to carry enough divert fuel to make it to CLT... Just saying'.

Does PIT still have U.S. Customs available?

 

[BoeingBoy]

Does PIT still have U.S. Customs available?

Yes. They call it 24/7 but with only a few international flights (DL's PIT-CDG-PIT certain days of the week and Canada) I think it's pretty much on-call the rest of the time.

Jim