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That brings up an interesting point that I was thinking about recently.

We all know the government lies. It does not matter what side is power. The all lie to make them selves look good. IIRC Bush Jr even went so far as to change the math for calculating unemployment so it would not look as bad. Given how the markets fluctuate with the utterances of these idiots, it is not wonder we are in the situation. The market gurus take their cues from the village idiots with out actually verifying what the truth is. Then again it is these same idiots who were all involved in the sub-prime loans and the banking issues so I guess I should not be surprised.

Just seems like taking info from an idiot and then banking on it would a mistake a 1st grader would make not a banked or investor. OH well.

I hear the same doctoring the UC numbers now as with W and Bill......so like you say, its all a lie. Remember though, Nazi Germany perpetuated the idea that if you repeat the lie often enough, it becomes the truth. Tell me that isn't happening right now. And another thing, I learned the Nazi's got the idea from the US back around Woody Wilson's admin. Ain't that a female dog?

 

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I hear the same doctoring the UC numbers now as with W and Bill......so like you say, its all a lie. Remember though, Nazi Germany perpetuated the idea that if you repeat the lie often enough, it becomes the truth. Tell me that isn't happening right now. And another thing, I learned the Nazi's got the idea from the US back around Woody Wilson's admin. Ain't that a female dog?

Joseph Goebbels

Success is the important thing. Propaganda is not a matter for average minds, but rather a matter for practitioners. It is not supposed to be lovely or theoretically correct. I do not care if I give wonderful, aesthetically elegant speeches, or speak so that women cry. The point of a political speech is to persuade people of what we think right. I speak differently in the provinces than I do in Berlin, and when I speak in Bayreuth, I say different things than I say in the Pharus Hall. That is a matter of practice, not of theory. We do not want to be a movement of a few straw brains, but rather a movement that can conquer the broad masses. Propaganda should be popular, not intellectually pleasing. It is not the task of propaganda to discover intellectual truths.

 

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Joseph Goebbels

President Wilson used public relations to successfully persuade the people to support the war even though they voted for him on the premise that he would keep the United States out of war. Another instance in which a government sold a war to a nation was Nazi Germany in the 1930's. Hitler analyzed Wilson's successful persuasion of the American people and decided that he could employ these same strategies to brainwash the German people. After overthrowing the German government and establishing the fascist Nazi party, Hitler and Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels began their anti-Semitic campaign. Their goal was to create a fierce and collective hatred of Jews among all German citizens, and they successfully convinced people that the Jews were responsible for the poverty and misfortune that existed in Germany, even though the true source of the hardships and financial burden was Germany's defeat in WWI. Goebbels later stated that "if you repeat a lie enough times, people will believe it", a quote that perfectly characterizes the goals of governments when they use public relations and propaganda to persuade people.

Lancelot Link

 

[Ms Tree]

Politicians only lie when they move their lips.

 

[777 fixer]

I hear the same doctoring the UC numbers now as with W and Bill......so like you say, its all a lie. Remember though, Nazi Germany perpetuated the idea that if you repeat the lie often enough, it becomes the truth. Tell me that isn't happening right now. And another thing, I learned the Nazi's got the idea from the US back around Woody Wilson's admin. Ain't that a female dog?

You learned that they got the idea from the Wilson administration? Where exactly did you learn this?

 

[delldude]

You learned that they got the idea from the Wilson administration? Where exactly did you learn this?

Google search Pal.

 

[777 fixer]

Google search Pal.

Oh I'm preety sure there are websites out there that will say just that. However what a website says and what is actually historical fact are often two different things.

 

[delldude]

Oh I'm preety sure there are websites out there that will say just that. However what a website says and what is actually historical fact are often two different things.

Well then Hot Dog, disprove it instead of attacking it.

Or I got you by the 'Nads on this one?

 

[Ms Tree]

Disprove the existence of a whatchamacallit.

 

[777 fixer]

Well then Hot Dog, disprove it instead of attacking it.

Or I got you by the 'Nads on this one?

That's rather easy, no where in Mien Kampf is Wilson mentioned as a idol of Adolf Hitler. There are no quotes from Joseph Goebbels crediting Woodrow Wilon for his propoganda campaign. Maybe you should stop taking your histroy lessons from Glen Beck and read a history book instead.

 

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That's rather easy, no where in Mien Kampf is Wilson mentioned as a idol of Adolf Hitler. There are no quotes from Joseph Goebbels crediting Woodrow Wilon for his propoganda campaign. Maybe you should stop taking your histroy lessons from Glen Beck and read a history book instead.

Thats hilarious and what I would call a Pot meets Kettle moment.

 

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That's rather easy, no where in Mien Kampf is Wilson mentioned as a idol of Adolf Hitler. There are no quotes from Joseph Goebbels crediting Woodrow Wilon for his propoganda campaign. Maybe you should stop taking your histroy lessons from Glen Beck and read a history book instead.

That's rather funny, your perspective on Beck.
Maybe you should do more research before spouting off.
Beck does.
Goebbels, not Hitler used techniques from Wilson's Committee on Public Information.
Edward Louis Bernays worked for CPI which provided spin on many issues for the Wilson administration. Apparently Bernays and a few others at CPI knew how to spin quite well.
CPI and Bernays works caught the eye of Joey Goebbels and the rest is known as the holocaust.

You must have left the room when Beck covered that part.

Oh I'm preety sure there are websites out there that will say just that. However what a website says and what is actually historical fact are often two different things.

Well here's a little tidbit from a blog on your favorite online rag Salon:

I remember a book I read called PR: A Social History of Spin. The author discussed how the Nazi Minister of Propaganda, Dr. Josef Goebbels, was an ardent student of Mr. Bernays, despite the fact that Mr. Bernays was Jewish. Goebbels desperately wanted to meet Mr. Bernays and apparently sent numerous books to him to be autographed. We don't know if Mr. Bernays autographed them, but Goebbels claimed that he did. Goebbels, who had a PhD in philosophy (which is crucial in terms of understanding how he was able to understand Bernays and apply his writings in the way that he did), apparently had an even larger library on propaganda than Mr. Bernays and had not only read all of his books, but had largely memorized a good deal of them as well. Goebbels was able to utilize Bernays' ideas on propaganda in a manner that was the most malicious and homicidal ever seen in the 20th century: to support the Final Solution.

Through Bernays pioneering work on entertainment and using subtle stereotyping as a medium to incrementally create a favorable mood or climate for a favored action, Goebbels was able to increase German approval for the final solution through the utilization of entertaining films such as "Jud Suss."

B) B)

 

[tech2101]

If you are going to tell that story, then you should tell it truthfully.

When Reagan was negotiating with the democrats (who had both houses) he struck a deal with them that he would agree to raise taxes only if they would cut spending 3 to 1. The democrats agreed. However the democrats never did go thru with the spending cuts they promised. Reagen regretted that deal with them.

The very same thing happen to Bush Sr in his "No New Taxes" pledge. He was duped by the same trick. Taxes increased, spending cuts never happened.

BTW that's yet another myth pushed by the liberal MSM.

This might hurt a little...

Reagan was President during the following:

97th Congress 1981-1983:

The House of Representatives had a Democratic majority. The Republicans gained control of the Senate, the first time they gained control of any chamber of Congress since 1953.

The 98th Congress 1983-1985:

The Republicans controlled the Senate, while the Democrats controlled the House of Representatives.

The 99th Congress 1985-1987:

The Republicans maintained control of the Senate, while the Democrats maintained control of the House of Representatives.

100th Congress 1987-1989:

Both chambers had a Democratic majority

Only 2 of his 8 years did he have both houses controlled by Democrats.

It was 1982 When he struck the deal with the Democratic House.

We are constantly reminded that in 1982, Ronald Reagan raised taxes as part of a deficit-reduction deal with congressional Democrats. He believed he had achieved $3 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases. Reagan later lamented, "Congress never cut spending by even one penny."

Source

He had a Republican Senate during that Congress. Therefore, your statement is incorrect.

 

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This might hurt a little...

Reagan was President during the following:

97th Congress 1981-1983:

The House of Representatives had a Democratic majority. The Republicans gained control of the Senate, the first time they gained control of any chamber of Congress since 1953.

The 98th Congress 1983-1985:

The Republicans controlled the Senate, while the Democrats controlled the House of Representatives.

The 99th Congress 1985-1987:

The Republicans maintained control of the Senate, while the Democrats maintained control of the House of Representatives.

100th Congress 1987-1989:

Both chambers had a Democratic majority

Only 2 of his 8 years did he have both houses controlled by Democrats.

It was 1982 When he struck the deal with the Democratic House.

Source

He had a Republican Senate during that Congress. Therefore, your statement is incorrect.

You only proved my statement was correct. He struck a deal with the democrats and they never followed thru with that deal. Twisting words don't make it any less true my friend.

 

[Dog Wonder]

He proved your grasp of history matches your grasp of mathematics.