The Comebakc Kid Part II

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Clinton and McCain pull off upsets in NH

CONCORD, N.H. --Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton powered to victory in New Hampshire's Democratic primary Tuesday night in a startling upset, defeating Sen. Barack Obama and resurrecting her bid for the White House. Sen. John McCain defeated his Republican rivals to move back into contention for the GOP nomination.

"I felt like we all spoke from our hearts and I am so gratified that you responded," Clinton said in victory remarks before cheering supporters. "Now together, let's give America the kind of comeback that New Hampshire has just given me."

Her victory, after Obama won last week's Iowa caucuses, raised the possibility of a prolonged battle for the party nomination between the most viable black candidate in history and the former first lady, seeking to become the first woman to occupy the Oval Office.

"I am still fired up and ready to go," a defeated Obama told his own backers, repeating the line that forms a part of virtually every campaign appearance he makes.

McCain's triumph scrambled the Republican race as well.

"We showed this country what a real comeback looks like," the Arizona senator told The Associated Press in an interview as he savored his triumph. "We're going to move on to Michigan and South Carolina and win the nomination."

Later, he told cheering supporters that together, "we have taken a step, but only a first step toward repairing the broken politics of the past and restoring the trust of the American people in their government."

McCain rode a wave of support from independent voters to defeat former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, a showing that reprised the senator's victory in the traditional first-in-the-nation primary in 2000.

It was a bitter blow for Romney, who spent millions of dollars of his own money in hopes of winning the kickoff Iowa caucuses and the first primary - and finished second in both. Even so, the businessman-turned politician said he would meet McCain next week in Michigan primary, and he cast himself as just what the country needed to fix Washington. "I don't care who gets the credit, Republican or Democrat. I've got no scores to settle," he told supporters.

After Iowa, Clinton and her aides seemed resigned to a second straight setback. But polling place interviews showed that female voters - who deserted her last week - returned to her column in New Hampshire column.

She also was winning handily among registered Democrats. Obama led her by an even larger margin among independents, but he suffered from a falloff in turnout among young voters compared with Iowa.

Word of Clinton's triumph set off a raucous celebration among her supporters at a hotel in Manchester - gathered there to celebrate a New Hampshire primary every bit as surprising as the one 16 years ago that allowed a young Bill Clinton to proclaim himself "the comeback kid."

She was winning 39 percent to 36 percent for Obama. Former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina trailed with 17 percent. New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson was fourth, polling less than 5 percent.

Despite running a distant third to his better-funded rivals, Edwards had no plans to step aside. He pointed toward the South Carolina primary on Jan. 26, hoping to prevail in the state where he was born - and where he claimed his only victory in the presidential primaries four years ago.

It was hard to tell who needed a Republican victory more - McCain or Romney. McCain was the long-ago front-runner who survived a near-death political experience when his fundraising dried up and his support collapsed. He shed much of his staff and regrouped. An unflinching supporter of the Iraq war, he benefited when U.S. casualties declined in the wake of a controversial building in U.S. troops. By the final days of the New Hampshire race, he held a celebration of sorts to mark his 100th town hall meeting in the state he won eight years ago.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who won the leadoff Iowa GOP caucuses last week, was running third in New Hampshire.

McCain was winning 37 percent of the Republican vote, Romney had 32 and Huckabee 11. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani had 9 percent, Texas Rep. Ron Paul 8.

Clinton's triumph was unexpected - and unpredicted.

Obama drew huge crowds as he swept into the state after winning Iowa. Confident of victory, he stuck to his pledge to deliver "change we can believe in," while the former first lady was forced to retool her appeal to voters on the run. She lessened her emphasis on experience, and sought instead to raise questions about Obama's ability to bring about the change he promised.

The grind took a toll on both of them.

Obama suffered from a sore throat, while Clinton's voice quavered at one point when asked how she coped with the rigors of the campaign. That unexpected moment of emotion became the talk of the final 24 hours of the campaign.

Clinton's performance came as a surprise even to her own inner circle.

Officials said her aides were considering whether to effectively concede the next two contests - caucuses in Nevada on Jan. 19 and the South Carolina primary a week later - and instead try to regroup in time for a 22-state round of Democratic contests on Feb. 5.

These officials also said a campaign shake-up was in the works, with longtime Clinton confidante Maggie Williams poised to come aboard to help sharpen the former first lady's message. Other personnel additions are expected, according to these officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity while discussing strategy.

The close Democratic race resulted in Clinton and Obama each winning nine national convention delegates, with Edwards getting four, according to an AP analysis.

In the overall race for the nomination, Clinton leads with 187 delegates, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates. She is followed by Obama with 89 delegates and Edwards with 50.

McCain won seven Republican delegates to four for Romney and one for Huckabee. New Hampshire originally had 24 Republican delegates, but the national party stripped half as punishment because the state broke party rules by scheduling its primary so early.

In the overall race for the GOP nomination, Huckabee leads with 31 delegates, followed by Romney with 19 and McCain with seven.

Obama's defeat came as he had appeared to be within reach of gaining an endorsement from the powerful Culinary Workers union in Nevada in the days ahead. He is still strong in South Carolina, where the Democratic electorate is heavily black and likely to go for the most viable black presidential candidate in history.

The Republican race turns next to Michigan, where McCain and Romney already are advertising on television, and where both men planned appearances on Wednesday. Huckabee also was expected to campaign in the state.

According to preliminary results of a survey of voters as they left their polling places, more independents cast ballots in the Democratic race than in the Republican contest. They accounted for four of every 10 Democratic votes and about a third of Republican ballots. The survey was conducted for The Associated Press and the television networks.

Republicans were split roughly evenly in naming the nation's top issues: the economy, Iraq, illegal immigration and terrorism. Romney had a big lead among those naming immigration, while McCain led on the other issues.

Half of Republicans said illegal immigrants should be deported, and this group leaned toward Romney. Those saying illegal immigrants should be allowed to apply for citizenship leaned toward McCain, while the two candidates split those saying those here illegally should be allowed to stay as temporary workers.

Among Democrats, about one-third each named the economy and Iraq as the top issues facing the country, followed by health care. Voters naming the economy were split about evenly between Obama and Clinton, while Obama had an advantage among those naming the other two issues. Clinton has made health care a signature issue for years.

About one-third said if Bill Clinton were running, they would have voted for him on Tuesday.
 
"The COMEBACK KID........Part II"

WOW, I could'nt have phrased it any better !!!!!!!! :up: :up: :up:

The LACK...of the sound of CHAMPAGNE CORKS...."NOT POPPING"...... in Northeastern Oklahoma, :oops: and Western Pennsylvania. :oops: ...was ............"DEAFENING" :bleh:

With EVERY poll Imaginable, predicting Hillary's Doom, Mrs CLINTON..REFUSED to quit.

Political newspeople from NBC/ABC/CBS/MSNBC/"FOX"/CNN, with the likes of Matthews/Brokaw/Russert/Gibson/Sawyer/HANNITY/Coombs (and the list goes on, and on),......are saying that, they can NEVER remember a politician, who took EVERYTHING that they "threw at her"(their words, not mine), and remained "still standing", even through a period of a tear or two, yesteday !!

So now we move forward, with the PRESSURE now, BACK onto Barack Obama, and as for ME,.........well .......I think I'll relax with a nice glass ..Of CHAMPAGNE :up: :up: :up: :up:
 
Word of Clinton's triumph set off a raucous celebration among her supporters at a hotel in Manchester - gathered there to celebrate a New Hampshire primary every bit as surprising as the one 16 years ago that allowed a young Bill Clinton to proclaim himself "the comeback kid."

Definitely not the message one for change wants Independents to remember......

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Big endorsement from one of the biggest employers in the state...

In a significant boost to our efforts, we received the endorsement of the SEIU local in Nevada late last night.

Culinary workers news release 1pm est....

We expect to see a great deal of movement to Obama from superdelegates in the coming days, seriously eroding the Clintons’ existing advantage in this universe.

Uphill battle for Clinton 2 at best....
 
Definitely not the message one for change wants Independents to remember......

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Big endorsement from one of the biggest employers in the state...



Culinary workers news release 1pm est....



Uphill battle for Clinton 2 at best....

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As expected, Barack Obama has secured endorsements from the 60,000-member Culinary Workers Union in Nevada and the Nevada chapter of the Service Employees International Union, the Associated Press reports.

With Obama having won the Iowa caucuses and Hillary Clinton taking the New Hampshire primary, Nevada's caucuses take on an added importance. The Nevada SEIU claims to have 17,500 members, and the support of both unions could be a boost to Obama in the Jan. 19th caucuses.

"The culinary union, representing hotel, restaurant and laundry workers in Nevada's casino industry, is the largest and best organized labor group in the state," AP writes. "It has the ability to steer thousands of voters to the state's Jan. 19 caucus and turn an already competitive three-way scramble for supporters into an all-out ground-level frenzy."
 
I don’t get it. The pundits make a wrong prediction and when it is proven wrong, the winner is touted as a come back? That is like someone predicting that a Model T will beat a Enzo in a ¼ mile race. When the Enzo wins, it is a comeback kid? Please.

Clinton has been the front runner for years. She has the cash, the name recognition and everything else to go along with it. Obama is a relative new comer to this game and he has done amazingly well. He won in Iowa by a good margin and only lost in NH by 2%. If anyone is the comeback kid it’s him. He was never expected to win until recently and he did far better than most even could have hoped for.

I would love to see the news just report on the numbers of the elections on the day of the election after the polls close. No predictions, no reading of tea leafs. I get so tired of hearing them blow hot air trying to read the tickers to see what the numbers are before I switch back to Discovery or Hist channel. I’ve gotten to the point where I just mute the
 
Gar...

I saw or heard something somewhere referring to Clinton's win as a 'LANDSIDE'....I couldn't believe what I heard.
 
I know. The whole thing is unbelievable. You have a relative new comer to the race giving Clinton who has a net work in place and huge name recognition, a run for her money. She wins NH by 2% and about 8k votes and this is a huge deal. The fact that a black man won Iowa and came close in NH is a huge success as far as I am concerned.

I was watching MSNBC last night and I waned to climb through the screen and #### slap the lot of them. Aghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
 
I know. The whole thing is unbelievable. You have a relative new comer to the race giving Clinton who has a net work in place and huge name recognition, a run for her money. She wins NH by 2% and about 8k votes and this is a huge deal. The fact that a black man won Iowa and came close in NH is a huge success as far as I am concerned.

I was watching MSNBC last night and I waned to climb through the screen and #### slap the lot of them. Aghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

I'm with you Grafield. I swear, listening to some of those half wits you would think Hilliary was the outsider and underdog. Instead of the one with a pile of money and her husbands spin machine working for her.
 
Did anybody notice film footage over the past couple days?
I saw Clinton on Katie's gig...there was footage of Clinton's 'emotional moment'.....she's there wearing a BLUE dress....(reaching out to our emotions)..to me it appears she's trying to get 'emotional' and isn't a very good actress....she has excellent handlers who leave no stone unturned in her image and appeal to us.I'll bet my salary for a year that the whole thing was planned and staged for her benefit. Tell me I'm wrong.....and it looks like it worked....
Then pan to Katie and Clinton peacefully walking along the sidewalk at her NY home....in her Hillary standard - victory,I'm in charge Commie Red dress....
Is it me or what?
America is being sold a boat load of horse crap and isn't even aware..... :down:
 
Planned, not planned. Who the hell cares? What does that moment or any other campaign moment have to do with a candidates ability to lead? Personally, I think it was one of the few unplanned things in the whole campaign

I heard some voter say that she was not sure if she wanted Obama or Clinton. Then she decided to vote for Clinton because she did not want to look back and realize she could have helped put a woman in the White House. I am all for a woman/black/hispanic/gay/trans sexual or who ever in the White House. But I'll be damn if I will cast my vote for them solely on that basis. If they are qualified (IMO) and happen to be a member of one of the afore mentioned categories, great.

I am trilled that voter turn out is way above expectations but i sure as hell wish some of these people would pull their collective head out of their ass.

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Speaking of emotions/sensitivity crap. If that is one of the criteria that the electors are looking for, can we see an example from one of the men running? Any of the men who are running. And while we are at it, how the hell did Cheney get in office with out shedding a tear? Clinton has to show she can be as tough as a man but also have a feminine side? What a freaking double standard. I do not care for Clinton from a political stand point but the hypocrisy shown by the public and the media is pissing me off. She is a female candidate being held to a double standard. Say what you want of her politics but she is facing a double standard and that is not fair.

When is the last time a man was told he was too hard or not sensitive enough in the way that Clinton is? Wen was the last time anyone was judging any of the male candidates on their looks (Huckabee is a dork, Richardson looks like a dweeeb, Romny is a pretty boy, McCain has jowls like a boxer (dog) and the list goes on. But no, it's Clintons looks that get the attention. This country is still sexist to it's core and I am sick of it.
 
Eh...I dunno here......

The boo-hoo-hoo thing seems too prepackaged...and knowing her....its right there.

As for the GLBT thing....I don't know.......would it become 'a new direction' for Uncle Sam?

As for a prepackaged item..WTF does anyone think a Prez run is? To sell a product...thats it.

If it starts to go further south than it did before NH.....I expect Clinton 2 to go negative big time....its their

only way of life..she started showing a little when up against the wall after Iowa.Time will tell,so will the

media....see who they're pushing as to coverage...it will be an indicator.Bill was already whining about the

'O' getting a free ride in the media....talk about the pot calling the kettle black.... :lol:

Edit:
Speaking of emotions/sensitivity crap. If that is one of the criteria that the electors are looking for, can we see an example from one of the men running?

My point exactly.......
 
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