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Just as I thought. It's a mismatch of the way you do things vs the way we did things. We had no need for those extra deep ovens, as we didn't load trays of entrees into carts. We plated most of our meals in FC and the ovens held the tins of bulk vegetables, etc, just fine.

The best FC galley of all time was the 747 galley, initially known as the 530 galley, since it began 530 inches from the nose of the airplane. The other galleys were the 830 and the 1694.

I know; I'm dating myself.

MK
Is your hand getting tired yet????? Sorry, I couldn't resist that one.... :lol:
 
Just as I thought. It's a mismatch of the way you do things vs the way we did things. We had no need for those extra deep ovens, as we didn't load trays of entrees into carts. We plated most of our meals in FC and the ovens held the tins of bulk vegetables, etc, just fine.


MK

We plate on some flights. The ovens are the same size on all airplanes and in all galleys for consistency. If an oven breaks they just replace it with another of the same type.

Having worked with the little oven racks at other airlines, I can say that the large racks are a real life saver in coach. No more of that burning your hands while stacking them on the top of the cart business.

I think you would like the convenience once you've experienced it.
 
Just as I thought. It's a mismatch of the way you do things vs the way we did things. We had no need for those extra deep ovens, as we didn't load trays of entrees into carts. We plated most of our meals in FC and the ovens held the tins of bulk vegetables, etc, just fine.

The best FC galley of all time was the 747 galley, initially known as the 530 galley, since it began 530 inches from the nose of the airplane. The other galleys were the 830 and the 1694.

I know; I'm dating myself.

MK
I never take the cart out in F/C. It's not approved service procedure. However, entrees are always preplated now--at least on the flights I work. Only 2 entree dishes will fit on one rack.

From what I hear from the "old-timers" at AA, you might get an argument about the "best" galley. I've heard a number of them rave about working galley on the DC-10 down in the belly of the plane with NOBODY to bother you--passengers OR co-workers. :lol:

Did AA ever have any 747s? If so, they were gone by the time I arrived in 2000. I would have loved to work that a/c. I know I loved being a passenger on it. When I worked for Texaco, we often were booked on KLM from IAH to AMS which was always a 747 in those days. My late wife and I went LAX-SYD on Air New Zealand's 747--another class act.
 
Did AA ever have any 747s? If so, they were gone by the time I arrived in 2000.

Aside from the SP's leased from TW (discussed a couple weeks ago), AA purchased 15 747-100's with deliveries starting in 1970 - 8 passenger and 7 freighters. There were also two -121's leased from Pan Am in 1970 and 1971, which were returned after AA's deliveries were well underway.

One of the freighters was sold in 1975, the other 14 were traded to Pan Am in 1983/1984 for 15 DC10's (11 -10's and 4 -30's) that they wanted to get rid of after their merger with National.

All of the freighters wound up with UPS (Pan Am never even took possession - the aircraft were owned by Citibank, and immediately sold to cover Pan Am debt), and the rest stayed with Pan Am. Two of them were converted to SCD's for CRAF, and ultimately joined their freighter sisters at UPS. The rest were eventually transferred to UAL when they sold off their LHR birthright, and have since been retired/scrapped.
 
Is your hand getting tired yet????? Sorry, I couldn't resist that one.... :lol:
I'll get you...

MK


I think you would like the convenience once you've experienced it.
We had a similar procedure in coach on the MD80 and the SP.

MK

This is strange. I responded to two different posts at different times, and the second was combined with the first into a single response to two different people. It happened yesterday, too. Is this a new feature or is it just me?
 
Mexicana has expressed interest in sub-leasing those four aircraft.
I guess there's a sucker born every day. The F-100 was a love/hate relationship. Loved the more headcount it drove, but hated getting in that tail area for a hydraulic job. :down:
 
Hey Jim,
Isn't using the cart in the aisle approved now? I thought that on the 737, S-80 and 757 it was OK to use the carts in the aisle. Doesn't really matter, just curious. I know that doesn't mean that you have to take the cart out.
 
Hey Jim,
Isn't using the cart in the aisle approved now? I thought that on the 737, S-80 and 757 it was OK to use the carts in the aisle. Doesn't really matter, just curious. I know that doesn't mean that you have to take the cart out.

The Turbulence Task Force got that changed.... where as we used to park carts in front of the fwd. entry door during the service, now that area is clear so that you can take your jumpseat quickly if needed.
 
I guess there's a sucker born every day. The F-100 was a love/hate relationship. Loved the more headcount it drove, but hated getting in that tail area for a hydraulic job. :down:

Definetly not the most reliable airliner every built. However somone must like them because most of AA's F100's have been spoken for.
 
Hey Jim,
Isn't using the cart in the aisle approved now? I thought that on the 737, S-80 and 757 it was OK to use the carts in the aisle. Doesn't really matter, just curious. I know that doesn't mean that you have to take the cart out.

Despite what some domestic f/as will tell you, taking the cart out in the aisle is not approved on narrowbody a/c. I've even seen some f/as take the BEVERAGE cart out in the aisle on a beverage only flight. Now, that's lazy.

However, I've heard that the service procedures and standards for all a/c are being re-written. I believe that a FOOD cart in the aisle will be approved for narrowbody if the load is over a certain threshold.

I don't like to take the cart in the aisle for several reasons. First off, most of the carts are so beat up looking. If I were a passenger I would have a hard time believing that the food in that cart had been kept clean. Second, since they don't give us the linens to drape the inserts anymore, those gray plastic inserts just look tacky on top of the cart.
Three, I HATE sitting on the jumpseat for long periods of time. On a 4 hour flight from SLT-SFO, hand running the trays helps use up some of the time.
Four, (but no less important), when pulling trays out of the cart, if they've been packed badly--like one side on one rail and the other side of the tray on another rail, or the plastic wrap on one tray partially stretched over the adjacent tray or worse, one below--stuff can fall/get pulled off the tray, especially the wineglass and napkin. It's hard to cover that up if you're out in the aisle. :lol:
 
Perhaps only approved on international narrowbody flights. I know I read it some where. I am with Jim though, its a lazy and tacky way to present a premium service. I will stick with my hand running.
 

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