Gay Marriage

[signals]

I think Congress approved Obamacare, and the Supreme Court upheld it.

And I don't have a problem with it if it affected You and NOT ME!

 

[Ms Tree]

You did not seem to mind Obama IMPOSING Obamacare.
 
You did not seem to mind the government IMPOSING gay marriage.
 
Yet another example of a lying liberal.
 
You really are about as two faced as they come Tree.

Health insurance is not the same as equal rights.  I do not care for the ACA as passed.  I would prefer single payer.  I think ACA is a watered down POS but it is a step (all be it a small one) in the right direction. 
 
The government has not imposed gay marriage on anyone any more than it has imposed hetero marriage on anyone.
 
Yet another example of a delusional person
 
You are really about as ignorant as they come. 

 

[SparrowHawk]

I think Congress approved Obamacare, and the Supreme Court upheld it.

 
None the less, a violation of the role of government. ObamaCare doesn't preserve Liberty it destroys it.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Health insurance is not the same as equal rights.  I do not care for the ACA as passed.  I would prefer single payer.  I think ACA is a watered down POS but it is a step (all be it a small one) in the right direction. 
 
The government has not imposed gay marriage on anyone any more than it has imposed hetero marriage on anyone.
 
Yet another example of a delusional person
 
You are really about as ignorant as they come. 

I noticed when it became apparent the ACA was an epic failure Liberals stopped calling it Obamacare. 
 
The government did not impose the act of marriage but, they did impose the definition of it, against the will of the people I might add. I would not expect a communist at heart like you to understand that concept though.
 
With your history of lies and fantasy I would not be calling anyone delusional or ignorant if I were you. Your posts are the very definition of fiction.

 

[Black Magic]

And so it begins..Coming to a country near you, government will force religions to perform sodomite marriage. Denmark gets the sad honor of being first.

http://eaglerising.com/6712/government-forces-church-perform-gay-marriage/

 

[Dog Wonder]

You did not seem to mind the government IMPOSING gay marriage.

Did you have a shotgun wedding?

 

[Ms Tree]

I noticed when it became apparent the ACA was an epic failure Liberals stopped calling it Obamacare. 
 
The government did not impose the act of marriage but, they did impose the definition of it, against the will of the people I might add. I would not expect a communist at heart like you to understand that concept though.
 
With your history of lies and fantasy I would not be calling anyone delusional or ignorant if I were you. Your posts are the very definition of fiction.

 
 
Will of the people does not matter when it comes to equal rights under the COTUS.  Unless laws apply to everyone equally they are not valid.  Why is this so difficult for you to grasp? 
 
 our basic freedoms are based on the principle that law protects the minority from the tyranny of the majority
 
Your post above proves unequivocally that you do not have even a basic understanding of how the COTUS works.  Virtually every court that has weighed in on the marriage equality issue has struck down the bans due to violating the 14th amendment.  One would think that even a person with only basic intelligence would step back and take a look at the 14th and ask why.
 
Were you against the 'government' expanding marriage to interracial couples?  After all, that was not 'traditional' at the time.  Were you also against the transition from a property/alliance based institution to a love based one?  That was a huge deviation from tradition.
 
Not sure why I bother asking you questions because you never answer them.  You always dodge them with some stupid rant unrelated to the issue at hand.  I guess your lack of answers are answers in them selves.  You just admit that you have none.

 

[Ms Tree]

And so it begins..Coming to a country near you, government will force religions to perform sodomite marriage. Denmark gets the sad honor of being first.

http://eaglerising.com/6712/government-forces-church-perform-gay-marriage/

 
 
Do you have even a single example of any religious example of any religious institution being forced to perform any religious ceremony against their will?  Making up stupid and pretending it is real does not make it real.  Go ahead and give one example.  It should be easy for you.
 
Where such stupidity ever come to pass I would be in the front of the protest against it come rain or snow.  I'm not going to worry about getting a parka of rain suit anytime soon though.  There is not a single shred of evidence to even support such idiocy.

 

[Black Magic]

Do you have even a single example of any religious example of any religious institution being forced to perform any religious ceremony against their will?  Making up stupid and pretending it is real does not make it real.  Go ahead and give one example.  It should be easy for you.
 
Where such stupidity ever come to pass I would be in the front of the protest against it come rain or snow.  I'm not going to worry about getting a parka of rain suit anytime soon though.  There is not a single shred of evidence to even support such idiocy.

You really do need to be spoonfed everything.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/9317447/Gay-Danish-couples-win-right-to-marry-in-church.html

 

[Ms Tree]

You realize the US legal system is a bit different from the rest of the world right?  I thought we were talking about marriage in the US, not the rest of the world.  There are tons of marriage traditions in the rest of the world that have been going on for centuries that are not being imposed on any religious institution here in the US.  
 
Damn those are some ugly suits.  

 

[700UW]

 
None the less, a violation of the role of government. ObamaCare doesn't preserve Liberty it destroys it.

So where did you get your constitutional law degree?
 
Seems I would trust SCOTUS before you.

 

[Ms Tree]

Not sure I would.  The decision the majority just made in regards to the Hobby Lobby's law suit is pretty sketchy.  They opened the flood gates for all sorts of religious exemptions.  Reading Ginsburg's dissent is pretty interesting.

 

[Black Magic]

You realize the US legal system is a bit different from the rest of the world right?  I thought we were talking about marriage in the US, not the rest of the world.  There are tons of marriage traditions in the rest of the world that have been going on for centuries that are not being imposed on any religious institution here in the US.  
 
Damn those are some ugly suits.

Like I said before, it's only an amount of time. It will be an issue in the US within a certain amount of years as surely as the sun will rise.

 

[Ms Tree]

You and Harold Camping have a lot in common.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Not sure I would.  The decision the majority just made in regards to the Hobby Lobby's law suit is pretty sketchy.  They opened the flood gates for all sorts of religious exemptions.  Reading Ginsburg's dissent is pretty interesting.

 
Ginsburg's Opinion was one of the best dissenting opinions I've ever read. I don't happen to agree with much of it. But it is well reasoned and passionate. I do also share your concern over the unintended consequences of the decision will bring.
 
Gay Marriage expands Individual Liberty and increases private property rights. These are positives. Hobby Lobby is also a positive in that it addresses the right of the individual business owner to operate his/her business as they see fit. Whether it works out that way over time remains to be seen.