Gay Marriage

[AdAstraPerAspera]

LOL, there goes Lulu using his favorite word again. I don't think that word means what he thinks it means. 😀

 

[Ms Tree]

There is a lot that falls into that category with him.  The government is not imposing anything on anyone.  The reversal of the marriage bans is merely following the COTUS and no one is being forced to enter into a same sex marriage would they not choose to do so.  The government is not seeking to legitimize anything either.  To argue that point would be arguing that freedom of speech legitimizes the beliefs of the KKK or the Westboro Baptist Church which is just stupid.  Does the legal sale of alcohol legitimize drunkenness?  Does the sale of prophylactics legitimize promiscuity?  
 
His ignorance of law and his inability to present a fact based argument is surely a product of those horrible public schools he attended.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Gays don't care about that. They only care about the government "legitimizing" their deviant behavior. They seek to impose acceptance of that which the people would not willingly accept.

 
 
What is deviant to you is normal to them.Just like to me an IRA Provo depicted in my avatar is a freedom fighter to me, he was a terrorist to Maggie Thatcher.
 
Legitimize? Nothing to legitimize, gays or anyone is free to live as they choose as long as they do not initiate force against another person.
 
NO ONE can impose their beliefs or morals, values and ethics without your permission. Who cares what I think of the "lifestyle"?  If I want to be accepted in a free and open society for my deeply held Libertarian views, then I in turn have to accept that others may have different views. You DO NOT promote American Ideals by engaging in Un-American actions.

 

[SparrowHawk]

When Tyranny Becomes Law. Resistance Is Duty
 
It's articles and the actions described therein that make me want to throw every Homosexual back into the closet and lock the door. Apparently they behave no better and perhaps worse then their Conservative Christian adversaries.
 
http://www.tpnn.com/2014/10/15/pastors-to-mayor-dont-mess-with-texas-pulpits/

 

[signals]

No one cares

Says the force of ONE, who assumes that they matter more than others.

 

[Ms Tree]

I wonder if there is more to the story in Houston?
 
I am more curious about how a nonprofit 501(c)(3) can get away with political activism.  I wonder if the IRS will look into it.  Doubt it, it is TX after all.

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

Gay marriages are more fun to attend and the receptions are much more enjoyable than str8 ones

 

[Ms Tree]

Gay marriages are more fun to attend and the receptions are much more enjoyable than str8 ones

Been to two of them.  I agree.  

 

[SparrowHawk]

I wonder if there is more to the story in Houston?
 
I am more curious about how a nonprofit 501(c)(3) can get away with political activism.  I wonder if the IRS will look into it.  Doubt it, it is TX after all.

Because the activities are CLEARLY protected by something called the 1st Amendment and the Bill of Rights. Which last time I looked trumps the IRS, and state and local laws. A sermon on a spiritual belief that Homosexuality is morally wrong is protected speech. The 1st Amendment isn't there to discuss the weather.
 
Reading between the lines of several articles this appears to be a political cat fight that is getting way out of hand. I don't care if the Mayor is Lesbian or that the Pastors in question are Christians. The Mayor has every right to call evangelical/conservative Christians a bunch of homophobic knuckle dragging bigots and they in turn can call her a dyke. That's what Liberty is folks, get used to it as it rises daily.

 

[Ms Tree]

No one is disputing their right to free speech. 
 
Their 501(c)(3) status is another issue.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

 
 
What is deviant to you is normal to them.Just like to me an IRA Provo depicted in my avatar is a freedom fighter to me, he was a terrorist to Maggie Thatcher.
 
Legitimize? Nothing to legitimize, gays or anyone is free to live as they choose as long as they do not initiate force against another person.
 
NO ONE can impose their beliefs or morals, values and ethics without your permission. Who cares what I think of the "lifestyle"?  If I want to be accepted in a free and open society for my deeply held Libertarian views, then I in turn have to accept that others may have different views. You DO NOT promote American Ideals by engaging in Un-American actions.

It is Un-American to try to use the government to impose a culture change and that is exactly what is happening here.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Gay marriages are more fun to attend and the receptions are much more enjoyable than str8 ones

Been to two of them.  I agree.  

The rest of you are seeing this right?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Yep.  Twenty seven states now with more on the way.  Nice to see the GOP still fighting it is some states.  Takes resources away from other things.  Fighting marriage equality now makes no sense.  It's here.  Deal with it.

If history is any indication it will be "dealt with" soon enough.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

His ignorance of law and his inability to present a fact based argument is surely a product of those horrible public schools he attended.

If you want to see a horrible product of a school go hang around a college university and observe all the hippie libtard teachers there warping our youths mind.

 

[Ms Tree]

It is Un-American to try to use the government to impose a culture change and that is exactly what is happening here.

It's un American to deny people equal rights and violate the COTUS.